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them to come together. >> it is unclear. ,ertainly, as you mentioned 600,000 for lowe's. i guess it have to be something like, this is going to affect national security or we are going to have to close down schools, bases in your district. once that pain comes home and the congressman can no longer defend themselves to their constituents over the sequester, especially if they voted for it, that is when we will reach that boiling point. >> on immigration, what did you hear from the congressman? >> it is not going to be easy. bringing theorsed senate bill over rather than any house rod...

or did those lists trigger any further inquiries? no. i believe what happened is when disgust he paper, we s -- discussed it. . donors may be rellvapt but not asked in every case. if a donor has a contract with the organization, if the donor is doing it for a political purpose. but to just ask for donors without a rationale shouldn't be done. when we saw that it happened, we asked that if they hadn't sent them in we reached out and said don't. if they had, we said we're not going to use these and we didn't. you'll not find them used in any of these cases. there was something -- i don...

come forward with a national law. a national bill. by no means do we believe a national bill is appropriate. this bill has also been introduced on the other side. by senator mike lee of utah. apparently someone asked him if there is a 20-week abortion bill in utah, or if congress might introduce one for utah. he was quick to say, no. they don't have such a bill in utah. nd he would have -- if the congress tries to enact it in utah, he would oppose it. so here we have a tea party republican of the senate who applied his tea party principles until he he just doesn't want to. and that h...