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>> brenda: john, do you agree good for the economy? >> yes, look good for the economy and look at gary b. this is beyond stupid. there are 25,000, professor, listen to this, 25,000 miles of pipeline right now that go across that carry all-time hazardous materials, fossil fuels and talking 250 miles we're adding to that. and to say all of that oil is coming down to our refineries is not going to add jobs, that's insane. >> brenda: told on a minute and-- >> okay, hold on, jonas-- >> look, it's a pipeline, it's not-- the whole idea is an efficient way to move stuff. and say truck the oil to the gulf, stupid way to do it it, but create more jobs. dirty canadian oil is not good for the environment to get it out of the tar pits, however, we can't stop it from leaving the tar sands. what's the most energy
the carbon food prints, tar sands versus regular extraction and the idea it won't cause environmental damage, defore-- deforesting. >> and all the states it would go through approved? >> number one, it's not just this pipeline. by getting this pipeline approved we now start the wheels for the 12 other pipelines that we need because if we get those pipelines built we will be larger exporter of oil than saudi arabia, number two, if you look at the pipeline disasters we've had and all of them, they do happen, they have not amount today an absolutely hill of beans. this technology is built in the 21st century now, the pipelines we've had problems with were built in the 19th century, could be 5 million, 6 million jobs.