Prove. and let's bring in david riggleman and cyber security director chris kreps. thank you for both being here. the january 6 committee recommended that the justice department charge trump by multiple crimes. what did you think of the referrals? do you think the committee laid out to the case to the justice department. >> when you look at eight hearings they've done, everything they've done, i think this is probably the natural evolution at this point. and, by the way, i think when you look at the evidence and the way they presented trump, his attachment to team crazy, his legal state of min...