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been reading the decline of the roman empire at this same time i've been reading your book. given the point is i think when a civilization falls it is said to have a point in something that many volumes long and many years is that the collapse of the civilization can seem sudden when the barbarians are the gates but it's the result of a long process of stagnation political errors and cultural decay of all kinds. the point seems to be the opposite in civilization. that civilizations can collapse faster than we generally think. and for a moment the ultimate question is whether we are g...

religion in u.s. politics. this is about two hours. [inaudible conversations] >> i want to welcome everyone here today. i me j. dionne a senior fellow here at brookings. it is very good if you to come out and be with us and this is a very exciting survey. we have said a lot after 9/11 that we had a new normal that this had changed us in extraordinary ways and it is always in the survey that you are about to hear, more about, talks ab...

education. you know, as robbie's charts clearly indicated there does tend to be a very strong age and education effect influencing attitudes towards islam, immigration and a number of other cultural religious issues as well. said the survey indicates all of the expected correlations with regard to african-americans, hispanics, muslims and immigrants patterns of social relations and the importance of religion itself. but, and this will be my concluding point, there were some surprises. we did not -- we expected to find a much bigger divide between the youngest and the oldest americans...

>> a majority of people agree that american muslims are an important part of the religious community and the united states, but are divided over whether the values of islam are at odds with the u.s. values. this is part of a report by the brookings institution and public religion research institute, which looked at the role of religion in u.s. politics. this is about two hours. [inaudible conversations] >> i want to welcome everyone here today. i me j. dionne a senior fellow here at brookings. it is very good if you to come out and be with us and this is a very exciting survey. we ha...