Vice president mike pence to, himself, overturn the election in favor of trump. and when that appeared to be failing, moving on to a third act, and on january 6th itself using his mass of supporters, either bringing them there in order to engage in this insurrection or at a minimum, once they had moved into the white house knowingly failing to stop this assault on the capital. so in each one of those stages there are a whole host of federal crimes that trump and others could be charged with. >> right. it is really -- you lay it out so well. i'll bring up barbara mcquade which apparently inspir...