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weeks? just because advocates have been outshouted, the question now is, will they be outvoted. the president doubling down now making this big speech to joint session of congress on wednesday to try to shift the parameters of this debate to get back on offense and they have been on defense all summer long. monica? >> mike, the language we heard from the white house from people like david axle rod, they have been using phrases like this is the eighth inning, the ninth inning, the end game. they are really making it as if this is it for the president and he'll push that final argument...