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Alex Wagner Tonight

now, all are said to have died after the plane crashed while on route to st. petersburg from moscow. however, we still do not have official confirmation that prigozhin himself is dead, and you can see here the plane suddenly plummeting to the ground, which has fueled speculations about whether the crash was an accident or not, according to the washington post, too loud sounds were heard just before the plane crash. now, after his failed coup, putin exiled and prigozhin his followers to nearby belarus, and he has branded demonstrators. today, president biden did not rule out that putin may be behind the crash. >> i don't know for a fact what happened. but i am not surprised. >> do you think -- >> there's not much that happens in russia that putin is not behind. i don't know enough to know the answer. >> joining me now is susan glasser, staff writer for the new yorker, and author of kremlin rising -- and the end of revolutions.

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susan, thank you for being here. i just wonder as a russian watcher and knower, such as you are, you have a theory about why we don't have official confirmation about why prigozhin he's dead or alive? >> well, look, there is always a lag between the two things. i think the message is pretty loud and clear. certainly, the default setting here has to be that prigozhin he's presumed dead at this moment in time. the wagner group social media channels are also suggesting that that is exactly what happened. you made the point, alex, that is exactly two months since the failed mutiny by prigozhin and a cohort of his men. he did not -- unwisely, it appears -- he did not choose to stick with the exile in belarus that was negotiated to end that aborted mutiny. and i think, in our experience, vladimir putin, as bill burns said, just a few weeks ago, he likes his revenge served cold.

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Alex Wagner Tonight

general sergei survey ken was removed as head of the russian air force at the same time. he was also taken, apparently, into custody in the aftermath of the wagner rebellion. i think that you have to think that he was also basically pulled aside for being too close to those who challenged the power in russia. so, it is yet another earthquake, though, that results from putin's catastrophic decision to invade ukraine. i think that is an important way to look at what is happening here. none of this would have come into the open -- these disputes inside the kremlin -- if it were not for this kind of catastrophic war that russia is waging in ukraine right now. enormous casualties, questions about the kremlin's leadership -- all of that is a result of biting off more than they could handle in the ukraine. >> yeah. well, seismic developments on all fronts. tonight susan glasser, as always, thank you, it's great to see you. still to come this evening, how

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now, after his failed coup, putin exiled prigozhin and his followers to nearby belarus, and he has branded demonstrators. today, president biden did not rule out that putin may be behind the crash. >> i don't know for a fact what happened. but i am not surprised. >> do you think -- >> there's not much that happens in russia that putin is not behind. i don't know enough to know the answer. >> joining me now is susan glasser, staff writer for "the new yorker", and author of "kremlin rising: -- vladimir putin's russia and the end of revolutions. susan, thank you for being here. i just wonder as a russian watcher and knower, such as you are, you have a theory about why we don't have official confirmation about why prigozhin he's dead or alive? >> well, look, there is always a lag between the two things. i think the message is pretty loud and clear. certainly, the default setting here has to be that prigozhin he's presumed dead at this

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i think that is an important way to look at what is happening here. none of this would have come into the open -- these disputes inside the kremlin -- if it were not for this kind of catastrophic war that russia is waging in ukraine right now. enormous casualties, questions about the kremlin's leadership -- all of that is a result of biting off more than they could handle in the ukraine. >> yeah. well, seismic developments on all fronts. tonight susan glasser, as always, thank you, it's great to see you. still to come this evening, how florida governor ron desantis and the war on elitism is now a party wide battle. we are going to have more on that strange hypocrisy coming up next. up next. okay. i'll work on that. save 50% on the sleep number® limited edition smart bed. plus, 60-month financing on all smart beds. shop now only at sleep number®. we planned well for

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