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the lead starts right now. for the first time since the start of britain's war, ukraine will be getting an aid package from the u.s. that includes cluster munitions, bonds that are banned by most countries. president biden gave an exclusive interview where he tried to defend that controversial decision, and the special counsel zeroes in on an oval office meeting during donald trump's final days in office, a meeting described as nuts. follow-up from the exclusive cnn reporting and what it tells us about the investigation into trump in january 6 and a possible third indictment of mr. t...

and didn't get enough. >> rachel: my mouth is on fire from the poppers. i need some water. they were good. >> will: last night i was doing the most ub healthy do, scrolling through my feed. ir read about -- >> joey: i read that. >> will: the american flags, in the united states when you see american flags flying, it is normal. in the uk, when you see their flag flying, you are neo-nazi. in 1700, a select group of people got on a boat and went in search of a better life. 99% of the people said that is a crazy idea. that explains the difference in the u.s. and the uk and establishes th...

>> -- had been nothing but trouble. >> she couldn't tell me what had, happen she was so upset. >> it was about to get much worse. >> my mom would say, if you find, the car you will find kathy. he did not want to be, dark because you wanted to keep looking. >> she had been stabbed multiple times, there was blood in the interior of the car. she was a targeted victim. >> who killed kathy? >> we had no witness, no confession, no dna. >> 20 years went by. >> they still had to keep looking for what i had lost. >> but, kathy had her, and she had him. >> i put a lot of faith in god. >> and t...

we have updates in the other special counsel's investigation. jack smith issuing more subpoenas in the january 6th investigation. this time, focusing on arizona. so let's get to it. joining me now is nbc news investigative correspondent, tom winter and nbc news justice reporter, ryan reilly. let's start with the top. walt nauta, finally getting a lawyer. finally pleading not guilty. walk us through what happened. >> it was a short hearing. the big news is he did get this lawyer, and essentially one of the reasons i think it's more difficult to find someone is because, you know, donal...

>> we know that's one of the reasons why he's on the supreme court. >> i think this is tantamount to sticking a dagger in our back. >> we will gun to see a kind of segregated higher education landscape. >> we're going to see that become wider and wider. >> what's next, gay marriagesome. >> is this leading to no women in colleges soon? who knows? [laughter] >> no women in colleges. we can dream. i joke. [laughter] and biden wasn't done sobbing, running over to the safe pace of msnbc. >> i find it just so out of sorts with the basic value system of the american people. >> do you to wor...