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>> this is a slow-motion explosion. >> i can't emphasize how explosive this is. >> we have witnessed today on live television, riveting. >> ambassador sondland testimony had such gravity to it. speak of this was an ied from mr. solid. he exploded. >> laura: he physically exploded? that could have gotten messy. but when we leave their world of make-believe, we see that there is no there there. >> president trump never told me directly that the aide was conditioned on the means. >> so it wasn't really a presumption, you heard from mr. giuliani? >> i didn't hear from mr. giuliani about the eight,...

>> laura: presuming, thinking, believing, feeling. we are going to impeach a president on someone's opinion in the absence of cold, hard fact? there were a lot of opinions and beliefs of today but zero evidence. >> my belief was, i believe that was to be the case. i was presuming that it was. >> i think. >> my personal presumption. >> that was my belief. >> my personal belief. >> my personal belief, as you put it, two plus two equals four. >> laura: he's good at math, too. two plus two equals four? that right. riveting, explosive! and how persuasive. congressman brad wenstrup, although not a l...

Wrong. >> you said what do you want from ukraine? the president, i want nothing. i want no quid pro quo. >> reporter: highlighting ukraine eventually received military aid without announcing any investigations >> you got all three of them wrong. they get the call. they get the meeting they get the money it's not two plus two. it's 0 for 3 i've never seen anything like this >> reporter: and republicans seized on sondland's testimony that there is no direct link to president trump. >> i don't recall president trump ever talking to me about any security assistance, ever >> no one on this planet t...

This quid pro quo that in order to get the white house meeting, there were going to have to be these investigations the president wanted >> correct >> reporter: but on the question of a quid pro quo for military aid that was being withheld at the time, sondland says he presumed the aid was tied to ukraine announcing investigations, but did not know for sure. >> the military assistance was also being withheld pending zelensky announcing these investigations, correct? >> that was my presumption. my personal presumption based on the facts at the time. nothing was moving >> reporter: sondland test...

>> it became your clear understanding that the military assistance was also being withheld pending zelensky announcing these investigations. correct? >> that was my presumption. my personal presumption based on the facts at the time. nothing was moving. >> reporter: but sondland acknowledges the president never told him directly. >> i don't recall president trump ever talking to me about any security assistance, ever. >> is this kind of a two plus two equals four conclusion that you reached? >> pretty much. >> it's the only logical conclusion to you that given all of these factors, that the ai...