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Come here and live the american dream. some want to commit crimes and do harm. >> leslie, what about there? seems to be a humanitarian crisis. why don't democrats want to disincentivize people from come here? it will solve the problem. >> i don't think democrats don't. you asked me a question. democrats don't want some but not the majority want open borders. the problem is the wall does not address the humanitarian crisis. the wall doesn't address the stats with regard to sex trafficking and with regard to drug trafficking. when you look at the biggest hauls, one in pennsylvania that came in t...

Because of executive orders. they create confusion and congress has to come up with a system of laws and a system that people understand, people who are here and people who are trying to come here. right now it is so chaotic, and chaos breeds floods of people. >> harris: one thing, you talked about the courts -- remaking the courts for this president might be a bigger legacy for him then tax cuts or anything else. >> robert: no question, the supreme court decisions he has made have given incredible power to the republican party. >> harris: even lower down the stream, they are. >> robert: matte...

Texas, 40% of this wall would be there, he is against it. >> katie: i'm not even talking about the welcome i'm talking about changing the laws. >> robert: that whole debate about the wall, he is against it. by the way, so was mac thornberry. he -- >> katie: if people can come here and falsely claim asylum and get released into the country, a wall doesn't matter because they are -- >> robert: i'm just saying, you should have the debate with will who represents them. >> harris: we will have more debate but we will move onto this. i'm glad you're here, robert wolf. >> robert: thank you. >> harris...

This is far more important. there's four simultaneous hearings tomorrow. daca recipients talking about their experiences and why it's so dangerous for this administration to terminate the program. the wall doesn't solve that. we also have the secretary testifying before the homeland security committee on the house side and the department of homeland security's inspector general testifying before the judiciary committee. my point is there's enough happening to determine the facts around this. what is not good is for us to continue with the nonsense and the propaganda and fear mongering that ste...

White house we can sit down and say we'll take this part from medicare or maybe why don't we fashion universal coverage in the way that works best. in terms of the issues around the economic justice, i don't disagree that right now capitalism isn't serving, especially low income and middle class people they're not getting the security or opportunity that america has always provided but there's adjustments that are going to move us forward but doesn't involve hand to hand warfare. hopefully we get more opportunities to speak. what does hickenlooper mean? >> dutch, like, heckenlopen.