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they bear responsibility? >> you have blood on your hands if you are not going to enforce the border and men and women are dying in this country. pel losi talks about cost. do you know how much $5 billion is out of the federal budget. .1%. let me translate for nancy. she spent money on cash for clunker, solyndra. a wall works. the obama website that cost $1 billion didn't. >> excuse me. we had a government shutdown when the republicans were in charge over $3.8 billion for health care, which every single american needs. >> every single american needs safety too. >> in 2018, off of the health...

>> you have blood on your hands if you are not going to enforce the border and men and women are dying in this country. pelosi talksn about cost. do you know how much $5 billion is out of the federal budget? .1%. let me translate for nancy. that's crumbs. she can afford it! she spent money on cash for clunkers, solyndra. a wall works. the obamacare website that cost $1 billion didn't. >> excuse me. we had a government shutdown when the republicans were in charge over $3.8 billion for health care, which every singleg american needs. >> sean: is working out great. >> every single american needs ...

Are making fun of a slat system. that is what it is. it's one of the companies that submitted it. the president liked that slat system. to call something else? >> i do, i think you're right. i think the semantics are important. certainly, border security. i've been to the border come i've seen it firsthand. my first session appeared, had the opportunity to see. i've seen the rugged terrain in arizona. i have seen the shallow river and the rio grande in texas. i've also seen where our wall works. but it's all about border security. it's all about technology, boots on the ground. the combination...

Your op-ed, and i feel like it's heartfelt, and i think the question is what is the right way to address that? you said something very interesting. you said whether it's a wall or border security, whatever you want to call it. the problem is, in this discussion, there's a distinction, isn't there? democrats want border security without the wall, the cement wall that the president said mexico would pay for, and house members are siding with the president saying there has to be $5 billion for the wall. right? i mean, there's a distinction there? >> there is a physical d distinction there, and th...

Is the president had also nancy pelosi's job but rather than doing that, she would rather --ss >> jason: i think clearly the democrats love the issue but i don't think it resonates to the american people. i think they know that this president is fighting to secure the border. last question. you spent decades in the service, you understand the border patrol, youcu understand customs and immigration -- immigrations and customs enforcement. what do you think they would say to the president and thehe membs of the congressof and the house and senate that have to vote on this?an do they or do they n...