it sells for just over $2,300. that comes out to about $2 a beer. up to you. buy it if you want. celebrate. i m sandra smith. here s harris faulkner in for shepard smith. after a victory, republicans are getting ready for the next battle over healthcare in america. it won t be easy. with one republican senator saying it has zero chance of moving forward. others say it has a bumpy road ahead. we ll have updates from capitol hill and the white house. when chris wallace joins me, i ll ask him how people feel about the changes proposed so far. unemployment just hit its lowest level in a decade. what it means for our economy and your money. are two of the planets most dangerous nations about joining forces? a connection with iran and north kor korea. and who is trying to kill kim jong-un? the assassination accusation. it s friday. time for the news. i m harris faulkner in today for shepard smith. you might call it a healthcare hangover. some bracing for changes to a republican healthcare bill that is just barely a day old. it s headed to the senate, as you know. the deputy press secretary said the president expects changes, but wants the main pillars to remain the same. some republican senators have announced they re not going to support the measure without major adjustments. as we watched on fox news, the white house celebrated with a news conference at the rose garden. the house passed the measure 217 to 213. somebody noticed cases of beer being wheeled out through the hall. no some say it could get bumpy. lamar alexander said we ll be writing our own bill. the senate could use the house measure as a resource for ideas. moderate republican senators have criticized one of the major provisions for rolling back the expansion under obamacare. conservative senators say it doesn t go far much the to replace obamacare. so it works this way. the house passed it, the senate will do its own dance. if changes are made, it goes back to the house for approval. the president declared victory on twitter today. big win in the house, very exciting. when everything comes together with phase two, we ll truly have great healthcare. last night hours after the vote, he said this is a great plan that is a repeal and replace of obamacare, make no mistake about it. john roberts is live for us outside the white house. obviously. good to see you, john. good to see you, harris. there s a phase 3 the president didn t talk about in the tweet. he s trying to take this a bite at a time. he got phase 1 through the house and now looking at phase 2 and needs to get phase 1 through the senate. as you pointed out, yesterday was about the celebration. this is where the process is going next. the president optimistic that he can get this thing through the senate. the big question is, what is it going to look like when it eventually gets through the senate. there s some people on the republican side saying, you know what? i like what the house did. but we re going to do our own bill and start from scratch on all of that. at the briefing a short time ago, i asked the principal deputy who made her debut. let s listen in. on the process of getting the american healthcare act through the senate, there s some talk they may have to go back to the drawing board. it s a heavy left getting the hda through the house. does the president expect the process in the senate could be even more difficult? i think that the one thing that you can be sure of is to never underestimate this president. he s shown time and time again when he s committed to something, it s going to get done. he s made no secret. he s committed to reforming the healthcare system. you ll see that process take place. the main pillar that sarah huckabee sanders was talking about, quality healthcare, access to healthcare and a lower price and more consistencconsis. people are waiting to see in the next phase, the idea of going across state lines for your healthcare. we ll watch for that. what did the white house have to say about how the bill handles people with pre-existing conditions? this is a big question that a lot of critics have. the way it s crafted, it allows states to seek a waiver from the mandates of essential healthnd conditions. the president has said on repeated occasions that it absolutely has to cover pre-existing conditions to people that already have an illness have to have access to healthcare. that s one of the reasons why fred upton of michigan and billy long of missouri came to the white house the other day, because they shared the same concerns. they came up with the plan that would designate a pot of money towards premium support for people with pre-existing conditions. sarah huckabee sanders on that point. one of the biggest priorities of this bill particularly for the president was ensuring that people with pre-existing conditions were protected. the final bill added an additional $8 billion to go a step further. the big question is whether or not $8 billion is enough to cover all the people that had pre-existing conditions. the white house suggesting, harris, the number of people that go into premium support could be very small compared to the overall population. you know what? i want you to stay where you are. we want more from john roberts. the labor department says the jobless rate hit the lowest point in a decade last month. the feds say unemployment was 4.4% in april. i m working with john thune on an amendment to address that right now. medicaid, we have to make sure it works for the states that took the expansion. ohio senator rob portman not pulling any punches saying he has serious issues with the house bill. he said i already made clear i don t support the bill as constructed because i can t to have concerns that this bill doesn t do enough to protect ohio s medicaid expansion population and those receiving treatment for heroin and prescription drug abuse . there s 52 republicans in the senate. portman and just about everybody else is really important, harris. the american public that voted like single issue on this is kind of anticipating that this is how it works, right? they go around around make some changes. people are not talking about are the democrats and all of the bipartisanship that they talked about was possible in all of this. it will be i m curious to see how it works out. what is next in the senate? bottom line, those that have been talking about healthcare, i m told they ve talked for months on the senate side and what they ll do when they get a bill from the house of representatives. those involved in the talks say they re looking forward to getting cracking. we ll move ahead with deliberate speed. we re doing that because exchanges are collapsing and people could be without insurance, premiums go up if we don t act. but we want to get it right. there s no artificial deadlines. we ll carefully consider the legislation passed by the house. we heard about democrats talking about improving obamacare. some democrats said they re willing to talk with republicans about improvement if not quite repeal and replacement of obamacare. it s important to get it into the senate. if we take healthcare seriously, we ll put the bill in the fifteen percent or more on car insurance, you switch to geico. it s what you do. número uno! when i went on to ancestry, i just put in the name yes, we are twins. of my parents and my grandparents. i was getting all these leaves and i was going back generation after generation. you start to see documents and you see signatures of people that you ve never met. i mean, you don t know these people, but you feel like you do. you get connected to them. i wish that i could get into a time machine and go back 100 years, 200 years and just meet these people. being on ancestry just made me feel like i belonged somewhere. discover your story. start searching for free now at ancestry.com. i need my blood sugar to stay in control. weekends are my time. i need an insulin that fits my schedule. tresiba® ready (announcer) tresiba® is used to control high blood sugar in adults with diabetes. don t use tresiba® to treat diabetic ketoacidosis, during episodes of low blood sugar, or if you are allergic to any of its ingredients. don t share needles or insulin pens. don t reuse needles. the most common side effect is low blood sugar, which may cause dizziness, sweating, confusion, and headac.. check your blood sugar. low blood sugar can be serious and may be life-threatening. injection site reactions may occur. tell your prescriber about all medicines you take and all your medical conditions. taking tzds with insinins like tresiba® may cause serious side effects like heart failure. your insulin dose shouldn t be changed without asking your prescriber. get medical help right away if you have trouble breathing, fast heartbeat, extreme drowsiness, swelling of your face, toueue, or throat, dizziness, or confusion. ask your health care provider if you re tresiba® ready. covered by most insurance and medicare plans. tresiba® ready harris: so you have a pre-existing conditions and you want to keep your health insurance? chris wallace, good to see you. this is one of the big talkers for americans. they anticipate in washington, they ll go back and forth with changes. i want your view on what people should be bracing for or ready for. well, there s going to be winners and losers. let s make it clear at the start. this is assuming that the house bill becomes the law. it won t become the law as you just reported. there will be changes in the senate. assuming what was passed by the house yesterday became the law, there would be winners and losers. young healthy people would be better off. their premiums would go down. older people, their premiums would go up. people with pre-existing conditions, it s not clear. they would have more to worry about than under obamacare, whether it was a flat regulation, you could not charge people with pre-existing conditions any more than people that did have the conditions. harris: i asked our team here to get a list. this will vary by state. lupus, alcohol abuse, alzheimer s, arthritis. the list is long in pre-existing conditions and could vary by states for the reasons that you spoke of. a last word on that and then we ll move on. a lot we don t know in this in the house bill because of the fact that some states would decide to live by the federal mandates that will continue to ban any discrimination against people with pre-existing conditions. but there s state waivers. if states can justified to the federal government, they can drop out of a lot of these things, pre-existing conditions, essential health benefits. there s this insurance mandate under obamacare that everything from mental health to maternity care, all have to be covered in every insurance policy. if states decide to take the waiver, they can say we ll take this part of the essential benefits and drop them. and an insurance company in oklahoma can say we re not going to live by the essential benefits in oklahoma. we re going to take the essential benefits in arizona. so it really is going to be a very different and much more checkered playing field than what you have under obamacare. harris: sure. then you have the players like rand paul, the senators, ted cruz that said you have to repeal it all and start over. you have mayor key people that we need to watch. you have lisa murkowski of alaska that doesn t like the medicaid point. let s talk about the six or seven senators to keep our eye on and what we re watching for. on the one hand, you have the hardliners. rand paul, ted cruz, mike lee. they were quiet yesterday. they didn t say it doesn t go far enough. in the past they have said they don t want government regulation of healthcare. even with this bill, with all the changes, repeal and replace, a lot of government regulation of healthcare. so it will be interesting to see how far they re willing to go or are they going to push for more. on the other hand, you have more moderate people, like lisa murkowski of alaska. harris: susan collins. she s another one. yeah. particularly in states that agreed to the medicaid expansion, which meant that people that previously haven t been covered by medicaid now were because they were above an income level. they re worried medicaid expansion will be rolled back if the house bill becomes law and they have hundreds of thousands of constituents in their states that have healthcare coverage under obamacare that would lose it with the roll back of medicaid expansion. they re not going to want to see that happen. that really gets tough. that is one of the things that absolutely had to happen in the house. remember, whatever the senate comes back with and dramatically different than the house, then they have to find a way to reconcile in a conference committee the senate version and the house version. as we saw the house version, which is more conservative than the senate version, it passed with one vote. anything to change the bill changes the balance of power in the house. harris: so those are potentially republicans on the bubble. what about democrats? anybody that could be pulled over? there s some that are talking about it. john tesser of montana, some of the conservative democrats, particularly those that are facing re-election in states that donald trump won facing re-election in 2018 in the mid-terms. i have to tell you, there s not been a democrat so far that has gone with this. yes, i understand that it s hard to oppose president trump in a state that he carried if you re a democrat. on the other hand, it s hard to go something called obamacare repeal and replace if you re a democrat. you ll lose a lot of your own voters in your state. harris: while you were talking, president trump tweeted this out. of course the australians have better healthcare than we do. everybody does. obamacare is date but healthcare will soon be great. this has just gone out. we ve been keeping up with him, as we all do. especially on a friday afternoon after his deputy press secretary has spoken to the media. we get new information. i want the get your response to that before i let you go. yeah, well, what this is about is that yesterday in his meeting with the australian prime minister, the president said well, i have to admit you have better health insurance now than we do. he went on to say but ours will get better after this repeal and replace. the key there, this is what people like bernie sanders noted, the australian plan is single payer like in britain and canada. while the president and his people are saying, he was being polite to the prime minister, they re saying, well, yeah, single player government-run healthcare is better than any system than we ll have under obamacare repeal and replace. harris: democrats are saying, wait, did you say single payer? around and around we go. chris wallace, i know what i m doing. i m watching you. thank you. chris will have the latest on the healthcare battle on fox news sunday with reince priebus. that s sunday on your local fox broadcast station. pentagon officials say iran and north korea may be working together on their weapons programs. one analyst says iran is copying north korea s missile design. i ll speak with jack keane coming up. we ll talk about that. stay with us. when my doctor told me i have age-related macular degeneration, amd, he told me to look at this grid every day. and we came up with a plan to help reduce my risk of progression, including preservision areds 2. my doctor said preservision areds 2 has the exact nutrient formula the national eye institute recommends to help reduce the risk of progression of moderate to advanced amd after 15 years of clinical studies. preservision areds 2. because my eyes are everything. how to brush his teeth. 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oh, yeah. overwhelmingly so. this is a 20-plus year close relationship. the iranians are following the north korean playbook about as close as you can. the north koreans in the 90s negotiated to us, lying about their nuclear intentions. they went back to developing a nuclear weapon. in 2003, they declared they had it. the iranians saying they re only building nuclear power for energy, not weapons. they had secret sites. what happened in iran, we found them because of informants. they were exposed. they followed the exact playbook. their missiles are exact replicas by and large of north korean missiles. their nuclear technology is north korean technology. they both want to have nuclear weapons to be sure. the iranians have never given up on that. they both want ballistic missile s and fire them from the surface and subsurface. north korean is leading the technology effort on all of that. harris: general, the american public has been told to believe there s so many immediate imminent threats. first it was the islamic state savages. talk about the urgency now and the reporting that we re also witnessing in this era about iran and north korea. well, iran, i believe, is a major threat in the middle east. middle more so than radical islamics that are a clear threat. we see the evidence of that all the time. they run around the world killing people. the iranians are a more serious threat. they have conventional military, they have missiles, developing ballistic missiles and they want a nuclear weapon. according to the deal that the previous administration made, they are likely to get nuclear weapons unless this administration puts a stop to it. so yes, that is a major concern for us. the iranians threat in the middle east and the north korean threat in the far east and our bases and our allies also a major threat to us. harris: are you confident that president trump gets this? i want to talk with you about the news that he dropped. that is that he s getting ready to make his first trip as president overseas and he s going to the middle east. the very place you re talking about right now. how does that inform you about the confidence that you may have in this president moving forward? first of all, he absolutely gets the danger of both of these threats. all of his national security advisers have been speaking out about the threats. obviously the president put the military option back on the table and is negotiating with the chinese. that s a plus. this trip to the middle east is a big deal. he making a statement that the middle east is a priority for me. he s going to make a statement that i have israel s back and i have the sunni arab s back in the middle east and we re going to stand up against radical islam and counter the iranians. that is not the position of the previous administration. that is going to be so well-received by our allies. the israelis doubted the previous administration s commitment. the sunnis were convinced that the united states had moved away from their previous security commitment. what about the president s authorization of this military to do what it needs to do? i have to let you go quickly but not without asking you about that. what is difference between now and what we previously had? it s about trust in confidence in our commanders to do things within their conflict area, let them make the decisions. they don t have to ask permissions. they have the resources and capabilities and great troops. leave them alone. judge them by their results. couldn t be better. harris: general jack keane, thanks for joining us with your expertise. good talking to you. a u.s. navy seal was killed in a fierce gun bat until somalia. this comes after a time when u.s. forces are in harm s way all over the middle east. president trump is encouraging more aggressive military action in the region and we just reported he s going there. he wants to wipe out terrorist organizations. our political panel all talk military now. we ll weigh-in on the possibilities, the benefits, the danger of the president s strategy. stay with us. i use what s already inside me to reach my goals. so i liked when my doctor told me that i may reach my blood sugar and a1c goals by activating what s within me with once-weekly trulicity. trulicity is not insulin. it helps activate my body to do what it s supposed to do release its own insulin. trulicity responds when my blood sugar rises. i take it once a week, and it works 24/7. it comes in an easy-to-use pen. and i may even lose a little weight. trulicity is a once-weekly injectable prescription medicine to improve blood sugar in adults with type 2 diabetes when used with diet and exercise. trulicity is not insulin. it should not be the first medicine to treat diabetes, or for people with type 1 diabetes or diabetic ketoacidosis. do not take trulicity if you or a family member has had medullary thyroid cancer, if you ve had multiple endocrine neoplasia syndrome type 2, or if you are allergic to trulicity. stop trulicity and call your doctor right away if you have symptoms such as itching, rash, or trouble breathing; a lump or swelling in your neck; or severe pain in your stomach area. serious side effects may include pancreatitis, which can be fatal. taking trulicity with a sulfonylurea or insulin increases your risk for low blood sugar. common side effects include nausea, diarrhea, vomiting, decreased appetite, and indigestion. some side effects can lead to dehydration, which may make existing kidney problems worse. with trulicity, i click to activate what s within me. if you want help improving your a1c and blood sugar numbers with a non-insulin option, click to activate your within. ask your doctor about once-weekly trulicity. i m lea gabrielle with a fox report. more of today s headlines. severe weather slamming parts of the southeast. a possible tornado tore off the roof and walls of an auto parts store in eastern georgia. near greensboro, north carolina, violent storms took down trees and powerlines. thousands lost electricity and some schools are closed today. firefighters rescuing two hikers from a hillside. rescuers planning to release them to their parents. no word on how long they were stuck. one of america s most famous pilots taking flight with the thunder birds. captain sully sullenberger joined the team to promote and upcoming air show. sully became a hero in 2009 when a bird strike forced him to land a commercial jet in the hudson river and everybody survived. the news continues with harris faulkner next. i don t know why i didn t get screened a long time ago. to understand your best plan of action. so why didn t we do this earlier? life line screening. the power of preventvention. call now to learn more. a u.s. navy seal was killed fighting terrorists in somalia. we don t know yet their conditions. this happened about 40 miles west of the capital of mogadushu. u.s. forces were helping somali troops were an operation against an al-quaida affiliate. forces say they re trying to prevent the group from plotting terror attacks. president trump gave the pentagon the green light to go on the green lightning against al shabaab. u.s. commanders say they got the authority to launch yesterday s operation during the obama administration. an interesting note as well. leland vittert is live at the pentagon. clearly something went very wrong during this overnight raid. the pentagon is not sure what it was. they were targeting a compound that al shabaab used to launch attacks against americans and other targets inside africa in general. reuters is reporting that the real target was a leader that played a key role in an attack on a local university in kenya that had 150 dead. most of the dead christians. a $5 million bounty on his head. the seals were advising soldiers and flew in by helicopter 40 miles east of the capitol. early during this assault, down on the coast is when they took heavy fire and the american died. we first and foremost want to express our deepest condolences and deepest appreciation for all of the men and women in the military. now, the pentagon says they still don t know if the mission was a success in terms of kill and capture for the al shabaab leader that they were looking for. we have a lot of history in somalia. this is the first american combat death in somalia since 1993. leland, thank you. the political panel is here. sarah linty, from the national security council under condoleezza rice. and david defury, a former state department official. good to have you both. sarah, this is interesting because what happened yesterday was actually kind of a leftover in terms of authorization from the obama administration. but definitely what happens going forward, president trump is taking a very different path in places like somalia. he is. he turned military operations over to the pentagon, to be left to their discretion. in my humble opinion, this is a good thing. when it comes to difficult tactical operations, i think decisions are best made in the hands of military professionals like secretary defense mattis. it s a pivot. harris: what is interesting, david, president obama, formerly, was often criticized for not being clear about what his brand of foreign policy was with regard to some of these nations and certainly fighting isis and others in that part of the world. we heard him spill out words like j.v. team. i don t want to go far down that road, but i want your idea on how much more on point do you think that this current president is and your opinion on that. look, this change in approach may be a welcome one. i traveled to iraq frequently. special forces that we have there that are fighting isis in iraq often chased about the rules of engagement with a cagey opponent like isis that makes all sorts of changes in strategy. it s good for the war fighters on the ground to have discretion about how they will fight back against isis and how they re going to defeat isis. that s a positive. i agree that president obama was slow to create a plan for fighting isis, but actually in the last year of his administration and certainly towards the end of his administration, he was doing a very good job of fighting isis. he planned the campaign to liberate mosul. that s going well. we re pretty close to pushing isis out of iraq. they remain in two cities other than mosul. we will be successful there. so let s continue that plan. the loosening of rules of engagement can be a positive. it s important to have some restrictions on the military to make sure we don t have is a civilian deaths. if we lose the war of ideology, we will lose the war against isis. harris: so there was a lot in what you just said that was critical and in defense of the former president. let s toss up the current president s words about what you call a loosening and what others see a broadening in terms of how much he s listening to our generals. this is what the greatest military in the world and their done their job as usual. they have total authorization. that s what they re doing. that s why they ve been so successful lately. if you look at what has happened over the last eight weeks in compare that to what has happened the last eight years, you ll see there s a tremendous difference. harris: i love shep. they let the president say it instead of me, which is good. let s talk about that authorization now that is different. i want to go back to you, sarah. president obama was criticized for not listening to hisnerals. is president trump doing that? well, i want to go back to 2013 when there was a chemical weapons attack in syria and president obama s team did not act. they dithered. what we saw a month ago in syria was the president making a decision, turning it over to the military that affected effectively, efficiently and got out. it was a stellar example of what i think we re going to see. more of what we ll see under this administration. so i think we saw i play out a month ago and we ll so i it heretofore. harris: that flies in the face of what you said, david, this could save lives in terms of military and civilians, we would hope, too, because it s more pinpoint. get in, get out. your thoughts. one of the biggest mistakes of president obama was not acting in syria in 2013. i agree. president trump was right to do the missile strikes that he did a month ago. but it s still confusing what the president plan is for syria. it s confusing as to whether his policy is for assad to step down or not. it should be that as sad should step down. we should be using force in syria. you know, we re supposedly sending more troops to syria, taking the fight to the assad regime and to isis. let s see how this goes. so far the president has waffled a little bit on syria. harris: it is interesting as we look at the situation with north korea and around the world and people think this president is serious about using firepower. that s one thing that syria did prove that he will do it. thanks very much. we ll have you back another day. thanks for your time. north korean officials, speaking of which, accusing the cia of plotting with south korean intelligence to assassinate kim jong-un with some sort of biochemical weapon. according to a state from the north s ministry of state, agents bribed a north korean and turned him into a terrorist of revenge against the supreme leadership of the people s democratic leader of north korea. this comes after mike pompeo visited the capitol. and as tensions rise. greg palkot is live with more. greg? hi, harris. it s far-fetched. but if it had happened, we would have had a front row seat. kim jong-un, the leader of north korea, was supposed to have been targeted at a military parade last month, which we attended. according to the story, the cia and the south korean counterpart said to turn a man over, pay him off and gear him up and arm him with a dirty bomb containing radioactive material and then kill the leader of this very public event. we speak with a spokesperson for the cia. they declined to comment on the report. we spoke to an expert. he said it s all propaganda. we can tell you security was pretty tight at that event. it s not completely outlandish. we have seen reports of u.s. military exercises that they call the decaptation of the regime. that is practicing to go to pyongyang and do something like this. also, the experts say that probably the best way for the regime to fall might be an internal coup, probably while kim jong-un is perhaps so ruthless and a little bit paranoid. back to you, harris. harris: thanks, greg. the notorious drug lord el chapo is complaining about hallucinations and the exercise bike in prison. personal problems. we re coming right back. no contract. straight talk wireless. only at walmart. it could be a year before notorious drug lord joaquin el chapo guzman gets his day in court. today he went before a fell federal judge in brooklyn. his attorneys are complaining about his living conditions. they say the drug lord is hallucinating, hearing music while in solitary confinement. the other complaints, the jail s exercise bike faces away from the tv and he s not allowed to see his wife. federal officials say the restrictions are necessary because he escaped prison twice in mexico. one time there an underground tunnel. trace gallagher is live with more. it s hard to pity anybody who has done what he s done allegedly, trace. and harris, you mentioned that he never sees his wife. today his wife was in court and our producener the courtroom said he spent a lot of time looking at her. he wore head phones during the hearing to hear the translation and the first order was business is to make sure that he was aware of a potential conflict of interest. turns out his current lawyers work in the same building with attorneys that represented witnesses that may testify against him. el chapo told the judge that he was happy with his current legal time. his lawyers did complain when they visited him in a federal jail, they have to stay behind thick plexiglass. that makes it hard for them to go over documents with him. experts say for safety purposes, it s unlikely that they will be allowed in the same cell. for now, el chapo spends 23 hours a day in a windowless cell, an hour in an exercise cell and he s not happy with the placements of the television. he says the air conditioning is erratic and he seas the guards don t speak spanish. amnesty has said his jail conditions are cruel and degrading. critics have pointed out he s escaped twice and believed to have brutally killed dozens of people. harris: exactly. trace gallagher, thanks very much. president trump is spending the week at his summer white house in new jersey. he arrived last night in bed minister about an hour west of manhattan. hosting the leader of the free world is not easy. the town has 15 police officers. they say they re making it work and we ll see how things are being adjusted and how he s adjusted. you do all this research on a perfect car, then smash it into a tree. your insurance company raises your rates. maybe you should ve done more research on them. for drivers with accident forgiveness, liberty mutual won t raise your rates due to your first accident. liberty mutual insurance. due to your first accident. you need one of these. you wouldn t put up with an umbrella that covers you part way, so when it comes to pain relievers, why put up with just part of a day? aleve, live whole not part. tell you what, i ll give it to you for half off. z286oz zwtz y286oy ywty harris: president trump is spending the weekend at his golf club in jersey an hour west of manhattan. he s doing new yorkers and all american as favor. rather than causing a big disruption in new york city, i ll be working in my home in new jersey. save the country money. and from one jersey mom to another person, hello. hello to you, harris. he s saving the city of new york money as far as the sleepovers are concerned. the township of bedminster is going to take a hit but not for too long. the secret service is in charge of the overall operation using local resources to protect the president with state police and other regional law enforcement agencies. this why know. but bedminster which has a population under 9,000 has a police force of 16 officers which is including police chief. as the mayor told us, an average weekend of the presidential visit will cost the township about $42,000. that may not sound like much if you re in new york city or florida for those costs, but for a town like bedminster, each visit is 1/2% of our budget. not police budget or overtime budget but total town budget. okay. so this sleepy rural community will be getting some relief. president trump signed a budget bill today that will target $61 million to reimburse local law enforcement to protect the president whether his in palm beach, new york or bedminster. while not every resident is happy about the high profile neighbor, one says it s great. one local deli owner says he s ready to name a hero after the commander-in-chief. let him come in. he can order a sandwich and it will be named after him. so what he orders, it will be named after him? 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you can take a look. i will be on the daily show with trevor noah, if all my travel goes okay including the many flights i ve been taking just about every single day. i m looki ing forward to being back on trevor s show. if you re in the area, it would be great if you could come by. i might see some of you in a little bit in seattle. that is all for this evening. the rachel maddow show does not start right now apparently. so she is there. there you are. i am here, sorry. it was actually me and a member of our ground crew both here about to start the show together. perfect. go to it, then. thank you very much. thanks to everybody who works here who has such patient with me arriving at the set usually four seconds before this camera turns on, tonight, arriving four seconds after the camera turned on. very sorry about that. as you might imagine, as you might be able to tell from my composure right now we have a big show tonight. we have here tonight live the former secretary general of nato. very much looking forward to that interview and discussion. we have congressman adam schiff tonight the top democrat on the house intelligence committee. we will be talking to him tonight as it is intersecticrea becoming the wisdom in the house intelligence committee into trump in russia is over, not that it s over because it s complete but it s over because it has blown up. in facty the whole house intelligence committee seems to have ceased to function entirely even beyond doing that investigation. they re apparently no longer meeting as a committee to do business other than the trump-russia investigation. they apparently stopped all together. it appears like the investigation itself is done. that probe from going forward. it seems clear honestly the administration would have nothing to fear from the chairman of that committee who after all was part of the trump campaign and trump transition official himself. i don t think they re worried about devin nunes. that means if the white house has played a role in shutting down or trying 0 shut down the house intelligence committee investigation of this matter, then the reason they were so afraid of it, the man they were so afraid of in that investigation wasn t devin nunes, it was the other senior person running that investigation, who didn t work for them, who was not part of the trump campaign. that would be the top democrat on that committee, adam schiff, if the white house really did shut this thing down, if the common beltway wisdom is correct and the house investigation committee into russia is over and shut down if the white house had any role in achieving that outcome, it s because they were afraid what adam schiff was going to do. adam schiff is here tonight live. it s a big show tonight. meanwhile, today was the start of the biggest rupture in europe, since the end of world war ii. the british people voted narrowly last summer to leave the european union. today, britain s represent tich at the eu presented the formal paperwork that starts the process of the uk getting out of europe, getting out of the european union. the president of the european union ended with a statement that included these four words, we already miss you. it will take britain four years to fully extract itself from europe financially and legally. it s an unprecedented process. nobody knows how it will end up in the details. we know the bottom line result. it will result in a smaller europe and a question whether that puts more pressure than ever before of this centrifical process of scotland breaking away becoming its own kingdom. then northern ireland. as you know, it s divided in two. most is the independent nation of ireland happily staying part of the european union. and the six counties that make up northern ireland those six counties are part of the uk and like scottish voters wanted to stay in the eu, voters in northern ireland wanted to stay in the eu, too, but outvoted. if northern ireland stays part of the uk they will be forced out of europe against their will and out of the eu against their will. the border between ireland and the six counties in the north will require that border to be fortified or built up to whatever extent is required by a border between the european union and non-european union country. i m sure the building up of that border will be great in northern ireland. i m sure that won t be controversial at all. what britain did today in y prying themselves off europe and splitting up the european union that is adding a whole new impetus, dynamic to the age-old bloody question whether northern ireland should stay part of the uk or six counties in the north should be part of the united front. troubles anyone? he two national institutions that was part of that so we wouldn t have another world war ii that followed world war i, the two multi-national institutions that were created and staved in fighting off world war iii thus far the two organizations that have done the work in stopping world war iii are nato and the european union. all things considered, forever you factor in military power and economic power and international influence, i think it s fair to say the uk is the strongest and most important cornerstone member of the european union. now, as of today they are starting the process of getting out. it s happening. that alone is profoundly d disstabilizing in lots of way to the uk itself probably our greatest ally on earth. we are also about to have two hugely important elections in other cornerstones of europe. both germany and france are heading towards very very important national elections that will not just determine the immediate short term future of politics in those countries, determine whether or not europe splits apart entirely. the strongest antieuropean candidate in france is mauer ren lapin, the head of a party called the national front founded by her father in the early 1970s. for decades the front national ale has been the fascist party in france. he denies the holocaust, made a career accusing his political opponents eing secret jews. and about muslims being allowed to immigrant to france a position his daughter shares as she campaigns to be president of france now. part of her campaigning to be president of france last week resulted in her taking a detour to the kremlin. a weird day. nobody quite knew where mauer ren lepin had gone for the day and suddenly turned up without warning for this meeting with vladamir putin, one-on-one. the russian government is essentially openly supporting the far right candidacy of her as she runs for president in france. russian banks have made loans of millions of euros during this campaign. today at their press conference on the senate intelligence committee investigation in the trump-russia. and senator burr said there was no doubt russia after interfe interfering in our election was interfering in russia and france. and this fascist candidate in france, it is possible the reason russia likes her so much cause of her domestic politics and so right wing and forgivee ra racist. vladamir putin, i don t know how he thinks. he might see that as a feature not a bug. in st. petersburg, russia will be hosting something called the rush shall international conservative forum and want to promote the establishment of a common constant acting russian european conservative elite group uniting the political and economic call elites in europe. one of these russian conservative forums russia has hosted in 2015 sponsored by a branch of his political party and in st. petersburg. that one attracted american far right racist fringe right characters like jared taylor a prolific su do economic white supremacist. you might remember him from the alt-right gathering in washington, d.c. where everybody did the nazi salute and shouted heil trump. you know, they said it was hail trump. but with the stuff arm it was hard to read their lips and get that sitle subtleties. regardless whether they like the racist part, whether or not he likes that faction, russia likes mauer ren le pen, and one thing they like is if she gets france she will do her damndest to pry france outside as well. russia supports anything pulling apart institutions of the west. russia s overall global strategy is to knock the united states down as many pegs as it can in terms of our global standing. they want to disrupt and divide and hopefully split apart russian alliances institutions that serve as a counterweight in the world and serve as definine ing any sort of democratic liberal values western order. all stinstitutions that support that russia sees them as the enemy. they will do anything to undermine them as best they can and when they have the momentum and advantage they will take it. that russian idea by defeating your adversaries by splitting them up, promoting divisions among them and within them, it seems almost ridiculous to think about it. that strategy extends to us in america in a very specific way. you may have heard about the newly energized current federation of thealifornia paratist movement? there have been low-key low profile california in sur reksus insurrectionsist movements for year, conservative parts of california that say california should split up and the liberal and urban and minority heavy part of the state should be its own thing and the conservative rural white part of california should become a southern idaho thing or something. that kind of thing has existed a long time. what s new in california is the surprisingly slick online organized progressive seaming effort that california as a whole should secede from the united states of america. i m from california, my whole family lives in california. i know lots of people in california who have talked to me half joking or not about how appealing this calexit idea is since donald trump was elected president. the leader of the organization that spearheaded that movement, the leader of yes california, he really does live in russia. he lives in siberia. last september, the yes california guy who conveniently lives in russia, the calexit guy and right ring separatists got invited to moscow for a kremlin funded event called the globalization of russia. look it up. you will signed links to the independent republic of california, with a link. and the calexited founder that the separatists office space is being loaned to him in moscow free of charge. he said he doesn t actually know who owns the office space, privately owned who can tell but nice to have free office space for his california separatist movement he s running from russia. that is a ridiculous story, right? it is a ridiculous idea, cart n cartoonish. but it s real. imagine if your goal was to take the united states down a few g pegs in the esteem of the world in terms of global leadership and the way they looked up to the united states for help or advisor conceivably as exemsplar of democracy and power, imagine if your goal was to hurt all of that, erode all of that, if you had a chance, even a slim chance hilarious cartoonish tiny chance of splitting off from the united states, one of its 50 states on its own terms is the sixth largest economy in the world. you pry california off the united states, california has a bigger economy than france does. it would be nice to pry germany out of the eu. pry france out of the eu. the eu is splitting apart on its own. we ll do what we can to help but let s think big. t theresa may is the british prime minister tasked with managing britain pulling out of the european union she is not the politics credited with the leaving. that goes to nigel, who spearheaded the brexit campaign and he has become famous for his frequent appearances alongside donald trump and trump tower at the white house. o oddly, the day wikileaks held its press conference to crow about the fact they were rele e releasing a devastating document dump experts say essentially exposed the entire cyber arsenal of the cia, on that same day, nigel farraj was at the embassy of ecuador where wikileaks founder jul yan assange lives and gave his press conference that day. a buzzfeed director said he saw him and asked him what he had been doing? he said he couldn t remember what he had been doing inside that building. recently this past week nigel f farage has been in california to promote the effort to california splitting from the united states or at least splitting itself in two. today, the republican and democratic senior members of that senate intelligence committee announced they have 20 people on their list they want to talk to for their investigation of trump and russia. they hinted former security advisor michael flynn and sally yates are among those 20 people. they confirmed his son-in-law will be one of the people they speak to. and on the house side the house investigation may or may not be blowing up. we ll hear more on that from congressman schiff. the senate is going ahead, tomorrow, not something you want to miss if you re interested in this issue. one point about that, the last point i want to make. confirming in no uncertain terms, there is one thing the committee will not be looking at, the question of whether or not the russian attack is over, whether russia is still doing their thing, whether they are in fact collecting their payment from the trump administration now in exchange in their part throwing the election trump s way, that the committee is not going be looking at. it changes the republican platform convention or the way the president refuses to criticize vladamir putin. that s not in the scope of the investigation. i ll leave that up to you guys to report. yes, ma am. yes, ma am, next question. senate intelligence committee will not be looking whether or not this russian attack, russian campaign is over. in terms of what that committee is going to investigate, we all fully expect what the russian attack on our election was. i think our country doesn t necessarily expect but at least hopes that it will look whether russia had help pulling off that attack on our election, whether the trump campaign or any other american confederates helped them in their attack. we hope they will look at that, too, they say they will. they made explicitly clear today they will not look and not even consider questions whether russia s attack on the united states is still under way. whether anybody who might have help them in that attack last year might still be helping them today to get what they want. as richard burr said today, he hopes the press will follow that question. that part is all on us now. congressman adam schiff is here tonight, the former secretary of nato is here tonight. stay with us. 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how much is nato in the crosshairs right now? how much is nato potentially at risk and why? ining us for the interview tonight, the fmer secretary general of nato, former prime minister of denmark and the author most recently of the will to lead america s indispensable role in the global fight for freedom. mr. secretary general, i m ho r honored you took the time to be with us tonight. thank you for your time. you re welcome. thank you. from your five years leading nato, what did you come to understand about russia s posture toward nato? what s their strategy when it comes to nato? their strategy is exactly what you have described. it is to split the western alliance and it is to insure that people have mistrust in democracy. when i am witnessing the debate that esspewed across the atlantic, when i am following the debate here in the states, i think mr. putin has more-or-less achieved his goal. how vulnerable is nato, that alliance to the kind of splits you re talking about. obviously, there are always disagreements and points of contention to the closest of allies. the kinds of divisions and splits and sore subjects he apparently wants to push, how vulnerable is the alliance? he cannot split the nato alliance. of course, it was a matter of concern when candidate trump raised doubts about the american commitment to defending all allies. after he was elected, he has appointed a security team which has reassured allies that the american commitment is unchanged, that s good. and furthermore, he has also provo provoked, i would say a valuable discussion about the european investment both economically and politically in the transatlantic pond. they understand europe that they cannot take the transatlantic pond for granted so now we have to reconsider how can the european country do more. i hear your analysis there but i feel there s an uncomfortable tension in part of it in that you seem to be saying you are reassured by people other than the president in the u.s. government, even if you are still worried about the president himself, in terms of his approach to nato. is that essentially what you mean, that you fistill have concerns about him but not about his team? there will be a nato summit on the 25th of may. i would expect a clear signal from that summit where president trump will participate, that the american commitment to the alliance is unchanged but also that the european allies will contribute much more. when we listened to vice president pence, secretary of defense mattis and secretary of state tillerson, they have reassured the european allies about an unchanged american commitment. as britain breaks off from the eu in a process that starts today, a lot of people are foretelling the break up of europe in a bigger way, people are looking forward to elections happening in other cornerstone eu countries. do you feel like those fea are overblown? the centrifical force we see operating on alliances like the eu if not nato itself, those things are as strong as we are worried about? i have no doubts president putin opened a bottle of champagne after he learned about the brexit vote because it s in his interests to weaken the west on alliance. however, now, we have to listen to the will of the british people and get the best out of the divorce negotiations. i have no doubt the uk will now feel even more committed to nato an contribute even more to european security. anders fogh rasmussen. former danish prime minister, former nato secretary general, thank you. thank you. we have another big interview tonight. congressman adam schiff joins us, lots ahead. stay with us. my business was built with passion. but i keep it growing by making every dollar count. that s why i have the spark cash card from capital one. with it, i earn unlimited 2% cash back on all of my purchasing. and that unlimited 2% cash back from spark means thousands of dollars each year going back into my business. which adds fuel to my bottom line. what s in your wallet? 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who went bzz so he could open the gate? who cleared devin nunes to enter the white house grounds last tut night? that last tuesday night. that is an answerering question the white house should be able to answer. monday this week, two days ago, the courthouse promiswhite hous would work on getting that information. they have not provided the information and reporters are starting to get ancy about it. do you have any information to live up to the commitment you made on monday to provide more detail how that happened in a process you just told us yet again is above board and totally appropriate? i don t have anything on that for you at this time. have you looked into it? i have asked preliminary questions and have not gotten answers yet. no, i don t have anything further on that. sean spicer not saying who let the intelligence chairman onto the white house grounds that night. that information is probably easy to find. you can t check white house visitor logs online the one ofs we got used to being posted by the obama administration and those have been offline since president trump took office. but the white house does presumably keep a log. they know internally. michael isikoff says sta staffers are speculating documents may have been handed to devin nunes by a lawyer named michael ellis that previously worked for nunes on the committee and hired this month to work. and until we get the simple answer to a question like that the house intelligence committee investigation will remain basically on ice. still no date for this week s hearing supposed to feature testimony from acting attorney general sally yates and probably be no hearings at all until at least after the easter break. time to start getting ready for easter now, you guys. as of today, all nine members of the democratic committee have called on him tory cuse himself from the investigation. it is temperamenting it is dead and everybody should pivot away from it and instead arrerest th hopes on the senate investigation. one person i m sure who doesn t believe that, congressman schiff. thank you for joining us. appreciate you being here. good to be here. what can you do updating us on the status of your committee, the question everybody has on their mind whether or not this investigation is still live in the house of representatives? here s the situation and you certainly introduced interest the right way, we can t have a credible investigation if one of the members let alone the chairman is freelancing and can t have an investigation where the chair goes to look at evidence and basically says, i alone can see this evidence and i will only share it with the president. not as if this is just keeping democrats out of the loop, that would be one thing but none of the committee members have seen this, none of us, democrats or republicans know exactly who he met with or what he saw, we only have his representation. you just can t conduct an investigation that way. we certainly want to get back to the business of serious investigation. we have never stopped our work, not through this, but we re not going to stop our work. i do think it s important, as i said all along, this credibility being conducted in a nonpartisan way. now, i think we have this cloud over the investigation in the sense many people have raised questions is the chair truly impartial? is there some distance between the chair and the white house? until those questions are cleared up i don t know how much credibility our investigation is going to have. from a pure numbers perspective, senators burr and warner today said they have about 20 witnesses scheduled for their investigation. they have seven professional sta staffers working on this. can you tell us anything in terms of the house side metrics like that for your committee? sure. we have probably a roughly equivalent number of staff cleared to work on this investigation, so the resources, although very small, frankly, on both sides of the capitol, are about the same being devoted to the investigation. our witness list is probably about the same size as that in the senate. i do think we ought to be making sure we go through all the documents we want and obtain the documents before the witnesses come in. we don t want to have the witnesses jammed on us before we re able to do the preparation for those witness interviews. but it s, i think, very much as you described or the senators described, same witnesses probably for the most part and the same staff resources devoted to it. congressman schiff, one of the terms that happened today was the chairman of your committee you called on to recuse himself in this investigation, he took some shots at you and the other democrats on the committee. if you have just a moment, i d love to get your response from the chairman if you can stick with us one more segment? 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rachel, i think what s going to happen really regardless of whether the chairman recuses himself or doesn t. the investigation is going to go on. it has to go on. the only question is how credible will it be? but democrats are going to continue to work in a very straight forward way. we re going call all the witnesses that we feel are relevant and appropriate. we re going to follow the evidence where it leads. if the majority walls off certain things, we ll be very public about it. i imagine they re going to continue to want to call witnesses and move forward. i do think to get back to a point you raised at the outset, one of the things that the russians have done is they have used financial entanglement in europe to try to exert influence over business people and politicians. that should not be beyond the scope of our investigation. well need to look at this issue as well. and so i don t think we ought to write off anything. some of the witnesses on our list do pertain to. for example, why there was this opposition at the republican convention to an amendment that would have been in support of providing defensive weapons to ukraine. if that changed as a result of anything that ambassador kislyak did or any other coordination, we ought to find out about it. i do disagree with my senate chaian counterpart. i think these are well within the scope, at least of the house investigation. congressman adam schiff, the top democrat on the house intelligence committee. congressman, thank you for your time tonight. i really appreciate it. thank you. what he just said there about financial entanglements and that should be part of the investigation, that s really important, and it s news that he said it. stay with us. we ll be right back. with advil, you ll ask what sinus headache? 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national security adviser all together. trump then asks the directors of national intelligence to clear him of any guilt in the matter. when that fails, he fires the fbi director saying he wanted to rid himself of the russian thing. he then shared with the russian ambassador his relief having gotten rid of the fbi director. that s a lot of obstructing, not to be obstruction. that s hardball for now. all in with chris hayes starts right now. tonight on all in what is the nature of what you saw in i saw interaction that raised questions. the russia plot thickens. it raised questions in my mind again, whether or not the russians were able to gain the cooperation of those individuals. a former cia director goes further than ever in describing what he saw, as the current director of national intelligence won t deny the about it. usually he s the first out of the box. let me ask you this. it s sort of remarkable, the color in this article. the sense you get is the president just sort of cualling through intelligence officials without any awareness of the possible impropriety of the entire endefer. that s right. that s what is so remarkable about this story all along, with president trump trying to get fbi director jim comey to intervene to drop the investigation into mike flynn, to then refine that he s trying to get the nsa director to come out publicly to say there s no evidence of collusion. he doesn t understand the lines, the traditional lines between law enforcement agencies and the political the executive branch, the political white house. it s also noteworthy that bears further reporting. notably today, dan coats was also asked about that. and he said he was not aware of it. and so we will have to continue to report out. now, that is a little more significant in that it s now you re starting to talk about you re moving into more what could be considered obstruction of justice. all right, ellen, thanks for your time tonight. joining me now is senator chris murphy of connecticut. first, let s start with your reaction to the reporting we re just talking about, the president contacting coats, rogers, among others it appears in an attempt to knock down this story. well, first, it certainly sounded like dan coats refusal to answer the question is a confirmation of it, that is part of this pattern of a president who is trying to shut down this investigation any way he can. and this is a pattern of behavior that really does start to look like obstruction of justice. so i think we re going to continue to follow this story. you pair it together with the confirmation there were contacts with the russian government during the campaign, and it feels today as if the walls are real kri cloly closing in on th president. former director brennan said something very interesting today about briefing your colleagues in the senate, the gang of eight particularly. i wanted ed ted to play that f. take a listen. we kept congress apprised of these issues as we identified them. again, in consultation with the white house, i personally briefed the full details of our understanding of russian attempts to interfere in the election to congressional leadership, specifically senators harry reid, mitch mcconnell, dianne feinstein and richard burr, and to representativing paul ryan, nancy pelosi, devin nunez and adam schiff between 11 august and 6 september. that s last september, height of the campaign that he s briefing republican and democratic members of congress. are you what is your reaction to the reaction of folks like mcconnell and ryan and their the way they ve handled this issue throughout? well, i think there s a question there whether they had informed congress about the russian manipulation of the election or the context with the trump campaign. but the fact of the matter is, this should have been a much bigger deal at the time. and i know that both senator mcconnell and speaker ryan know the potential gravity of this, and unfortunately, they are not taking it seriously enough. there s real political peril for republicans if they continue to stand with this president and back up some of his attempts to try to stop the truth from coming out. ultimately this will land at their feet, as well as the president s. do you ask yourself what else is the white house up to when you read a report in the washington post ? yes and no. in part because it doesn t seem like much happens in this white house without it ultimately being reported. not even the president s private selection of a lawyer is a secret for more than a few hours. listen, i think this administration is so ham handed in the way that it tries to stop the truth from coming out, that they eventually get caught and it gets reported on. i m just thankful that there are so many good reporters around washington that are plebleeding this truth out and that we have an independent counsel that can take some of this reporting and give us a set of recommendations how to proceed here in the congress. there s been a very active debate on and off the record about the use of obstruction of justice, which has a precise legal meaning, and impeachment. what is your feeling about that? well, as you know, chris, you have a decision twl whether to forward. if there s a belief that a crime has been committed, you would think that would rise to an impeachable offense. but it s a decision by congress as to what it believes is high crimes and misdemeanors. so we re going to watch whether this rises to the level of obstruction of justice. but frankly, whether or not it does, if there is an ongoing pattern by this president of trying to stop investigative agencies from getting the truth or if you continue to have evidence that the campaign, perhaps with the president s knowledge, was coordinating with the russians, that alone without the obstruction of justice charge would be enough to start that discussion of consequences in the senate and in the house. senator chris murphy, thank you for being with me. thanks. as a few folks pointed out yesterday, it was 44 years ago yesterday on may 22, 1973, that this was the front page of the new york times. richard nixon conceding an effort to conceal some aspects of watergate. the nixon presidency was brought down in large part by the so-called smoking gun tape, a june 23rd, 1972 recording on which nixon tells the staff to direct the cia to stop the fbi from investigating the watergate burglary. joining me now, attorney jill banks, one of the prosecutors in the watergate scandal. so let me start with this question. from your perspective, having been a prosecutor during watergate, how proper and/or legal is it for the president of the united states to reach out to members of the intelligence community to try to get them to go on the record in his defense or even to intervene in an investigation? completely illegal. it is obstruction of justice. really? you think facially, flat out? flat out. anyone who is saying differently, people are saying well, you have to show corrupt intent. yes, you do. but asking sessions to leave the room when you are having a conversation with comey about the investigation is clear enough evidence of intent. and it s exactly what got richard nixon into trouble. he was plotting with his aide, halderman, to get the cia to tell the fbi stop investigating on the false grounds that it would hurt national security. really, the breaking point in watergate was precisely that, that nixon sort of cooked up this idea that he was going to tell the fbi, that they were going to uncover some black ops the cia was running. that was the point, where it all flipped over, right? it was the discovery of that tape, which was just before trial. we asked for additional tapes. went oh the supreme court. they said we have a right to them. that one tape, june 23rd, just six days after the break-in, was exactly the smoking gun that led to the republicans going to the president and saying if you don t resign, you will be impeached. and why was that so important? there was a lot of facts on the table at that point. what was it about that, from a legal or political perspective? one, it was just an accumulation of things that by that point you couldn t ignore anymore. and it was he had lied. he said he didn t even know about the cover-up until march when john dean told him there was a cancer growing on the presidency. this was in june. so it was publicly committed to, i didn t know until march. but he actually knew in june, and he was plotting in june. he was part of the cover-up. i think it was just all too much. there s you said this is obstruction, talking about this president s behavior. so here s a question to you. with watergate, right? the underlying infraction, which is the break-in and a variety of transactions that happened, that there was a cover-up of an actual first order crime. if it s the case that there is nothing they re covering up from a collusion stand point, does that change the legal, moral, political consequence of this obstruct what you call obstruction? my opinions are based on legal. i ll leave the political to your political advisers. i don t know what will happen whether there will be impeachment, whether there s the will for impeachment. so that s a different that s a political question. but the interesting thing here is, the underlying crime could actually be as bad or worse. you had them talking to the russians, and we don t know about what. that s going to be testimony interestingly this week, although today the former cia director brennan said there was a pattern of conduct between the campaign and the russians that was concerning. that s disturbing. let me ask you this. i guess my question is, is it possible to commit obstruction of justice, to impede an investigation into something that you didn t do? that s a very interesting, philosophical, legal question, and i m not sure it may arrive at that moment. i think we may. but i have a feeling you don t engage in the kind of behavior here, if there isn t an underlying crime. so the question is, exactly what are they concealing and why are they concealing it? what is the connection to flynn that makes the president protect him so much? there s just too many questions. jill winebanks, thanks for being with me. that was great. coming up, new subpoenas and threats of contempt charges for donald trump s ex-national security adviser, michael flynn. and what former cia chief john brennan described as the treasonous path after this break. my ancestry dna results are that i am 26% nigerian. i am just trying to learn as much as i can about my culture. i put the gele on my head and i looked into the mirror and i was trying not to cry. because it s a hat, but it s like the most important hat i ve ever owned. discover the story only your dna can tell. order your kit now at ancestrydna.com. for my constipation, i switch laxatives.ed stimulant laxatives make your body go by forcefully stimulating the nerves in your colon. miralax is different. it works with the water in your body to hydrate and soften. unblocking your system naturally. miralax. fifth amendment and refused to turn over business documents related to his interactions with russian officials. so the committee has issued two new subpoenas, this time directly to the businesses, since corporations can t invoke the fifth. in a letter to the committee, flynn s lawyer asserted that his client had been the target on a nearly daily basis of outrageous allegations. flip also previously requested immunity in exchange for testimony which he was not granted. in the house investigation into ties between the trump campaign and russia, democrats are citing new evidence against flynn and pushing for another subpoena. congressman elijah cummings wrote to chair jason chaffetz saying joining me now, msnbc contributor, former fbi double agent, authority of how to catch a russian spy. navid, let s start with the allegation by elijah cummings that they have evidence he lied to the people interviewing him when he was getting a security clearance review. how big a deal is that? it s a big deal for two reasons. the first one is the pragmatic one. it s potentially a crime. if he did this knowingly and there was an intent to sort of cover something up here. the second one is, on the counterintelligence side. when someone purposefully misleads something in regards to an sf-86, this form that is a security back ground questionnaire, if you have a counterintelligence officer, it raises a red flag, besides for the obvious reason. it shows potentially an attempt to deceive. and that is a very troubling thing. i want to just run down, here are some of the problems flynn currently has in terms when you talk about that sort of deception as a red flag. he did not clear his rt payments. he allegedly didn t disclose those foreign payments in a security clearance interview. didn t register as a foreign agent. and lied about his contacts with the russian ambassador. whether he did anything wrong, there is a pattern here that, as you say, it would seem to me would raise red flags. that s right. again, taking this to the question of criminality aside for one moment, if you re looking at this and you re a security officer, you re going to make the determination if this person warrants or meets the criteria to be given a security clearance, you re going to have very serious concerns about issuing that clearance. so it shows a pattern potentially of deception. that is the thing that really does trouble me. i mean, we know what happened from 2014. we know what happened most recently in 2017. but there s a large gap of several years where we don t know what mr. flynn was doing. i was watching the testimony today and there was a lightbulb moment for me about collusion and cooperation. you ve been clear about your skepticism of open collusion and cooperation. brennan said this thing that il thought of conversations we ve had in that regard. take a listen. i ve studied russian intelligence activities over the years and i ve seen it, again, manifested in many different of our counterintelligence case and how they ve been able to get people, including inside of cia, to become treasonous and frequently individuals who go along that path do not even realize they re along that path until it gets to be a bit too late. how does that relate to your awareness of how russian intelligence or any intelligence agency operates in terms of cultivating people without them even realizing they re being cultivated? that s right. the russians are so sophisticated when it comes to this, and i would call it the romance phase. there s this part, and i was dealing with the gru, and he never said to me we want you to commit freetreason. there s a careful, slow progression where they re determining if you re real. and this concept that someone is going to sit down with you and say, i want you to spy, it s unlikely. so that s exactly right, it s this slow dance and it can take years. they re also paranoid and looking for signs that you may have been co-opted. so what brennan said rang true. it s a slow dance. so what i m hearing from you, there s a possibility that there is this two collaborators exchanging information, it could be the case that russians are pulling off this operation while attempting to essentially compromise or infiltrate in a unilateral way agents around the trump campaign. that s right. so if you going back to that timeline with flynn. we talk about 2014 when he was essentially fired by president obama. this a bitter general would be a perfect target for the russians. they would make an approach. this is how i would do it. they would make an approach, and that may not be illegal or even raise the concerns of mr. flynn, who is a 30 plus year veteran of the intelligence community. so that is it is exactly right. they might build a network of people and then what s curious, chris, that all these people ended up in the trump campaign. but you re right. it just seems like this space has to be reckoned with in terms of there s a sort of cartoonish image that we ll find some plot which people were sitting down in the back of a runl restaurant, and this seems like a more fruitful line of thinking. thank you for joining me. white house unveiled the trump budget today with massive cuts to many of the things candidate trump said he would protect. we ll show you who would be hurt the most after this quick break. . it s a supercomputer. with this grade of protection. it s a fortress. and with this standard of luxury. it s an oasis. the 2017 e-class. it s everything you need it to be. and more. lease the e300 for $569 a month at your local mercedes-benz dealer. mercedes-benz. the best or nothing. for their limited time their pespicy sausage. slogans johnsonville firecracker brats. 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i hope so. if there are people getting ssdi who should not be getting it those people who should be getting it receive less if if people are really disabled. we are not kicking anybody off of any program who really needs it. that remains to be seen. the president s budget is so extreme, it s quite hard to find anyone on capitol hill of either party who supports it, including republicans. what republicans are saying about the president s budget, coming up next. dead on arrival. that s how the number two republican in the senate e john cornyn, described the budget. other republican lawmakers criticized the proposal for the reduction in state department funding and for its overoptimistic growth projections. the reaction has been so negative that according to the associated press reporter erica werner, paul ryan had to tell house republicans not to fall into the trap of criticizing the trump budget. arguing there s plenty to like. and that s true, if you happen to be among the wealthiest americans. the budget trades massive tax cuts for the wealthy for unprecedented cuts to programs that help people with low income. welfare, medicaid, food stamps. but it goes further than that. it slashes funds affecting everything from cancer research to special olympics, another farm bill would shrink the federal student lone program for low income students. in other words, something for just about everyone to dislike. i m joined now by senate jeff murphy. do you agree with senator cornyn that this is d.o.a.? yes, i do. a budget is a statement of value. president trump doesn t honor doesn t have the integrity to honor his campaign promises on medicaid and social security. we also learned that it s not an america first vision for america, it s billionaires first and it s rural and working americans last. this budget just proceeds to e vis rate rural america by slashing rural water supply programs, rural airport services, rural clinics, rural post offices and even rural rental housing. i ll try to say all of that quickly. so here s my question to you. look, any attempt from anyone who wants to cut spending is going to meet resistance, the folks that say this is what we need to put taxpayers first, that it s politically difficult to cut spending, and they re being brave essentially in proposing this when in s little political upside. what do you say to that? it s certainly putting taxpayers first if you re a billionaire. but it s putting americans, struggling americans, middle class americans in a terrible bind. undercutting the core programs that support in rural america and urban america. i think about the this woman, carol, who contacted me from a small town in oregon, and she said look, my husband, we ve been married 33 years. he has dementia. he s in a nursing home. the medicaid being cut will destroy that support. she can t care for him, and she s concluded her letter by saying, if we lose the aca, the medicaid, surely i will die. and i think she s speaking for millions of americans who are struggling, trying to get by, who have worked their lifetimes, their bodies are worn out. these programs have given them peace of mind that if they have a medical problem, they ll get the care they need and they won t go bankrupt. and these programs have supported the economy. they re just being torn apart. the president has no vision of how america really works. you articulated in that a substantive defense and the medicaid expansion and opposition to cut, but also a political case. what s remarkable to me about the budget, it goes after so many different things, cancer research, things that are quite popular. these are not programs that are perceived only to benefit a few. there was a time when the president himself recognized the danger of this kind of thing, this is back in 2012. here is the president then tweeting about the ryan budget. what has changed? well, i don t know that the president has a grip over his own budget. his team is careening from one place to another. certainly i can tell you i ve been out in rural counties in oregon. i have a town hall in every county. i ve been in a dozen republican counties since january, and people are infuriated with the republican leadership. but you re a democratic senator. of course you re going the say that. it s very strange. in 2009, when i was first elected, i would go into these counties, and people came out and they were ready to tear my heart out because they thought obamacare was some type of socialist takeover. so you met with a lot of political activism. i ve been on the receiving end of that, for sure. and in half of those countries i had people start up and start applauding. they are looking for champions to stop this craziness, this destructive set of strategies that trump is putting forward. and his budget embodies that. i kept thinking about cuts to ssdi and i thought about the voters i ve talked to and what it would mean to them. it s explosive. senator, thanks for joining me. still to come, a new tone and some old vocabulary, what to make of president trump s somewhat muted response. this is how i dress to get a mortgage. i just go to lendingtree. i calculate how much home i can afford. i get multiple offers to compare side by side. and the best part is. the banks come crawling to me. everything you need to get a better mortgage. clothing optional. lendingtree, when banks compete, you win. okay! .awkward. we rbut we are not victims.ack. we are survivors. we are survivors. we are survivors. and now we take brilinta. for people who ve been hospitalized for a heart attack. we take brilinta with a baby aspirin. no more than one hundred milligrams. .as it affects how well brilinta works. brilinta helps keep platelets from sticking together and forming a clot. in a clinical study brilinta worked better than plavix®. brilinta reduced the chance of another heart attack. or dying from one. don t stop taking brilinta without talking to your doctor,. .since stopping it too soon increases yo risk of clots in your stent,. .heart attack, stroke, and even death. brilinta may cause bruising or bleeding more easily,. .or serious, sometimes fatal bleeding. don t take brilinta if you have bleeding, like stomach ulcers,. .a history of bleeding in the brain, or severe liver problems. slow heart rhythm has been reported. tell your doctor about bleeding,. .new or unexpected shortness of breath, any planned surgery, and all medicines you take. if you recently had a heart attack, ask your doctor about brilinta. my heart is worth brilinta. if you can t afford your medication, astrazeneca. .may be able to help. thing one tonight, the magical power of jerry mangerry. the washington post published this diagram explaining the problem. a state that voit votes 60% bl% red. with some deviously creative drawing, you can get red winning a ma zwrjority of the districtsh a minority of the voters. it turns out this is not a thought experiment. both parties have used this to their benefit. but since 2010, republicans have been pushing the limits to it, and in some cases doing so illegally. the most extreme example that resulted in this insane district map just went up to the supreme court and how the high court ruled and why it could influence states across the country. rt cl. come close, come close. i like that. 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terrorism just two days ago reacted to the attack this morning. and while his response was in character, it was quite different than much of what we saw from him on the campaign trail. that s next. losers because that s what they are. they are losers. for the president, it was a measured reaction, particularly compared to previous situations. for example, in the immiate aftermath of the orlando nightclub shooting last june, trump reiterated his call for mauz ba muslim ban. we must find out what is going on. it will be lifted, this ban, when and as a nation we re in a position to properly and perfectly screen these people coming into our country. they are pouring in and we don t know what we re doing. we cannot continue to allow thousands upon thousands of people to pour into our country, many of whom have the same thought process as the savaged killer. joining me now is the former state department spokesperson, former white house senior director under president obama and ambassador hill. former assistant secretary of state. ambassador hill, let me start with you. your reaction to the tone of the president and its marked contrast to how he sounded as a candidate. it s in contrast, of course, but i think he also expressed the indignity and sense of outrage that these murders require. so i think he did fine. i think it was a good reaction, from the heart, and i think that s what people would like to hear from our president. it struck me that when you think about that little date line, where he is, he s in israel, he was just in saudi arabia at a summit of, you know, sunni muslim officials and leaders. it changes both the world view and the language that any president will use, the fact that you actually have to go to the middle east and interface with people and you can t just be talking about them like they are not in the room. well, certainly. and i think we saw that the president was influenced by the surroundings so he was influenced by the fact he was around many muslim leaders and he s influenced in bethlehem, one of the holy yift cities of the world or staring at his twitter account all day. so that is, again, part and parcel of who our president is, is that he s influenced by the dynamic in the room and the media and attention that he gets around him. ambassador hill, a lot of people said in response to the muslim ban, there was a lot of critiques about it, substanley, morally. but one of the diplomatic critiques is precisely that this is offensive to people that we have to work with people for a variety of reasons. for instance, the first ban banned iraqis who were fighting and dying to defeat isis. you wonder if they are going to start to operate on this white house at all. one hopes. he s gone to a region of the world that s very much in turmoil and it s interesting, though, how he s cast his lot with the sunni arabs out of whose community comes this most hideous extremism. but he also seems to be trying to tee up an approach on israel, pointing out and really going after the iranians, going after the iranians in saudi arabia, which was kind of a funny place to do it, given that they don t have elections in parliaments and things like that. and then he does the same thing in israel as if to say in fact, he did say that saudi arabia and israel have a lot in common. he seems to be trying to tee up some sort of effort, i think, on middle east peace. what he really has teed up is he s stepped right in the middle of the sunni/shia conflict. in previous years, as a united states, we have tried to stay out of fully taking sides. granted, we don t have the diplomatic relationship with iran but iran has had elections recently and we have been making an effort to bring international power to bear to have it denuclearized as a state. that was done with netanyahu and israel. there s been previous tradeoffs. on the upside of what we saw under the obama administration and even the bush administration is we did not pick sides between sunni and shia, which has been a divisive side of the middle east. arming the saudis as they pursue yemen against shia rebels, the houthis, is pretty much taking sides, isn t it? let s just say we re going much further down the line, particularly with being in saudi arabia and speaking out about iran. you re starting to hear drumbeats. it pedalled back the last couple of years the potential u.s. involvement militarily in iran. these foreign trips will be interesting to see what he does when he gets back here to the u.s. and has to deal with the domestic arguments as well. ambassador hill, that s my question about counterterrorism here, which is, what do you see as continuity or as breaks. the musli bans one and two were blocked by the court and the first one rescinded. there s been an escalation in journalism strikes and other raids we ve seen. but what, to you, do you see as the hallmark so far of how this president has taken this approach in a different direction? well, i clearly this is someone who is kind of behaviorally pliable with whomever he s last spoken with. right. i think he found a lot to think about in saudi arabia. probably issues that he, frankly, had never thought about. i think he was kind of impressed and they showed him what they are doing about terrorism. he said, wow, you re doing the same sorts of things we re
we will see you back here in an hour. outnumbered search right now sandra: a big test for republicans on capitol hill today where the house right now is debating. the revamped bill to repeal and replace obamacare, i have a vote, expected in the next hour. this may be a nail-biter, but republicans believe they can pull out a win and deliver on a top priority for president trump. this is outnumbered. i m sandra smith. here today, harris faulkner, meghan mccain, former deputy spokesperson for the state department under president obama, marie harper, and today s #oneluckyguy, the opinion page editor for the washington times, charlie hurt is here and he is outnumbered on a seriously busy news day. let s get started. the magic number, 216. that s how many votes republicans need to send the replacement for obamacare to the yes, it s gone through. that doesn t mean when the bill gets to the senate it s going to be complete they gutted. sandra: republicans could claim victory here. you have the $8 billions added to the bill yesterday. that s when a couple no votes to yes. they can at least claim victory if this passes in the house. marie: here s what should be concerning. independent experts who have seen part of this bill have said this bill will still drive up premiums, it will stemming people s coverage. pre-existing conditions will not be covered like they are now, and when tom price goes out there and says all these things that everyone else is saying aren t true, that s a huge gamble with people s lives and what politics going into 2018. republicans are doing exactly what they accused us of doing in 2010. they re pushing a bill through very fast, no cbo score. charlie: absolutely. again, this is where my primary objection is. i don t support any obamacare or obamacare lite. the federal government does do a good job of running the post office. if they are going to come up with something, i want all 435 to be working on it. i m not going to like what they come up with no matter what. harris: where are they? marie: part of the problem is the g.o.p. did not post the bill until 8:00 p.m. last night. the g.o.p. in 2010 said as nancy pelosi going to vote so what on something without seeing it? what s the rush? calm down, bring on the democrats, show us the bill, talk to these high-risk pools who have had some issues. if you want democrats involved, takes up to show that. meghan: they don t want democrats involved. replacing, which is possibly an option and was probably going to happen. sandra: this debate is happening right now. pictures on capitol hill. charlie, can you walk us through what you ll be watching? charlie: as you pointed out earlier, 216 is a number we are looking for. it is going to be a nail-biter. going back to your point about regular order, which i would say didn t do this in regular order. if democrats republicans are laying democrats off the hook for this disaster. that troubles me. what i would find very interesting is if this were going through more regular order, whether democrats i don t think they would, whether they could form an absolute harris: republicans would have to lose 21 votes. that s a lot. democrats don t like walls, that would create a wall. sandra: just moments ago, president trump, as you saw, signing an executive order on religious liberty which relaxes rules against churches that promote portable candidates. whether this went for social conservatives can hold up in court. plus you may be surprised, hillary clinton after blaming james comey and wikileaks were her election loss. the latest fallout. and go to our live chat by clicking the overtime tab at foxnews.com/outnumbered or go to facebook.com/outnumbered fnc. of course you can also tweet us, we ve got our phones. meghan: marie has an announcement coming. you don t let anything when your pain reliever stops working, your whole day stops. awww. try this. for minor arthritis pain, only aleve can stop pain for up to 12 straight hours with just one pill. thank you. come on everybody. you can t quit, neither should your pain reliever. stay all day strong with 12 hour aleve. your insurance on time. tap one little bumper, and up go your rates. what good is having insurance if you get punished for using it? news flash: nobody s perfect. for drivers with accident forgiveness, liberty mutual won t raise your rates due to your first accident. switch and you could save $509 on auto insurance. call for a free quote today. liberty stands with you™ liberty mutual insurance. harris: we are checking back now, fox news alert with what s going on on the floor. there are still talking about the health care bill. most of the members for the republicans are in today, 237 of them, they need to have that number of 216 votes in order to pass this in the house and then of course, goes on to the senate. we will keep a close watch on i it. moments ago, president trump signed an executive order on religious liberty while marking the national day of prayer at the white house joined by vice president pence and religious leaders. the order he signed aims to relax rules on churches so they can support political candidates without risking losing their tax-exempt status. and it also pushes to make it easier for employers with religious objections to include birth control from the health care plan. watch. will not allow people of faith to be targeted, bullied, or silenced anymore. we will never, ever stand for religious discrimination, never, ever. tolerance is the cornerstone of peace. harris: liberal critics are already pouncing, alleging that the executive order would allow discrimination. an aclu official is warning and he actually asserted this yesterday, if present from signs an executive order that attempts to provide a license to discriminate against women or lgbt people, we will see him in court. we can get to that in a moment, but charlie, i wanted to start at the beginning of what the president said he was wanting to do today and i was make a difference. social conservatives, did they check this as a victory? charlie: i think is a huge victory. the johnson amendment is one of these arcane laws that is not often enforced by the irs that punishes churches, people who have tax-exempt status if they stray into politics. the problem with little enforced laws like this is that people were most concerned about following the law are the only ones actually abide by the law. then it gets very loosey-goosey on the edges. this is something that has scorched social conservatives for a long time. it is very interesting. donald trump is on a big gunner. he has guns, but he s not a hunter or anything, and he s not exactly a bible belt politician, but he made promises to those groups in the campaign and democrats did everything they could to separate those people from donald trump, he s not one of them, but they think he ll stick out for them. harris: look at the nara last week. the very early supporters among the most staunch supporters of this president. marie, some of the criticism has been that this will hold up legally and there ll be a backlash, talk to me. marie: i do think there may be some legal challenges. we ve seen with the hobby lobby decision, particularly women, health care and birth control, that is an issue that will be challenged. i met a lawyer, i don t know how that will turn out. i m concerned about it and it will be interesting to see how it plays out in the courts. for me, i m more fundamentally uncomfortable with it because i do want to keep politics away from church. i don t need more politics in my life. i don t need to come in on sunday morning and i m uncomfortable with the notion that religious organizations endorsing candidates. i think there is no partisanship in this world and let s let our religion to be separate from that. harris: where you put those black churches who are praying for barack obama? meghan: it s not uncommon. i have seen plenty of videos on the internet where pastors of churches were telling their congregations to vote for a specific candidate. when you re talking about this bill not being enforced, i more thinking about it this is something i thought was already going on to an extent. sandra: paul ryan responded, he said it s high time we restarted the religious right. marie: for someone meghan: i couldn t vote for a democrat for that reason alon alone. most of how i voted, at six important to me. a lot of times, i want to say politics and state stone and are stacked, it s a natural way for which it s going to. harris: this is specific, at least for my personal witnessing and some black churches where it was specific to the democratic party and such that it was barack obama and those were running with them. charlie: all churches pray for our nationalis that step ofd getting people to go to the polls. that s the line. harris: former national security advisor susan rice is under fire for refusing to testify before a senate panel. in the unmasking of u.s. citizens during the russian investigation. nine top lawmaker says her refusal makes it seem like she has something to hide. does she? 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marie: here s the problem with the allegation. there has been zero evidence to back that up and in fact, bipartisan republican and democratic members will find a chance to look at those documents devin nunes was talking about came away and said we didn t see anything improper. i understand charlie: how do you explain mike flynn thing? marie: which one? there are so many i can explain to you. charlie: the fact that he was unmasked, those transcripts were revealed. marie: there could be very legitimate national security briefings that mike flynn and his conversation with russian officials, turkish officials, any of these other officials was unmasked. i m not saying that have been dori didn t, i m saying there is zero evidence to back up the claim that this is a constitutional crisis. i want the senate to have hearings on russian interference in our election. jim comey said they are still interfering. surgeons and answer some questions. i think republicans are also using this politically. they re saying will invite her, she ll say no, then we will say she is. let s put that in the context of what russia did. harris: i want to go back to sanders question because i think it s a good one. i didn t quite hear it in your answer. i understand what you think it says for republicans, but what does it say specifically for susan rice? i want to contextualize it for you. she s a person who walked out the scenario of a video having brought about the killings in benghazi of our americans. she walked all those talking points that were proven not to be true. and the context of wanting to get to the truth of her at the center of it, what do you think it says that she is saying no, i m not going to come back? the marie: again, sometimes susan is her own worst enemy on these things. dianne feinstein came out and said she should probably come answer some questions. i would be happy for her, because it is a sensitive situation. i would love for her to answer questions in a way that were bipartisan or nonpartisan and to get to some of the truth of this unmasking issue. my problem is, republicans, i feel it, are trying to make the whole story unmasking and susan rice because she is an easy target when the whole story is russia meddled in our election, period. meghan: that s a lot of dancing. this ain t my first rodeo. shocking new details about my favorite person, huma abedin. i love her. fbi director james comey s comments on whether aberdeen should have been prosecuted. what top democrats are saying about ms. clinton s refusal to finally, totally, completely take the blame for her loss. 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marie: is the challenge. taking party supporters, the issues they care about, the sub taking the message on the economic side, what can we ask for average americans in places like my home state of ohio and try to bring some of those back? this is going to be a very interesting fight and i hope my party is up to it. sandra: at doesn t appear they are. tim ryan took a good shot at that. meghan: i take this from a totally different perspective about why politically she is not taken responsibility for her actions. i come at this from a personal place. i don t always invoke my personal experiences, but i have been there on election night front and center. when you lose and you lose to an embarrassing way which is what happen with my father and also what happened with donald trump. on election night, my family prayed together, talked about how blessed we are and in that moment, that night, elected to move on. had my father been going on tv 100 days later blaming everyone else, i would have called him up, i would have personally yanked him off television and said you re embarrassing yourself. this is pathetic, this is not good for america. it s not good for americans to keep reliving this. they fail because it was the worst campaign ever. i find her behavior deeply unpatriotic and quite pathetic. harris: are you worried, marie, that while hillary clinton i have a buck, if you figure out where the buck stops are you at all worried about how this would affect her and an ability to focus an end help the party because she still does have samoa joe she could help with, because you want to talk about women s issues and everything else, maybe she could certainly help fund raise, she knows how to do that. are you worried that she becomes a shiny object distraction for your party? marie: she doesn t. we have joe biden, barack obama, he is still very popular, left off his incredible a popular, and other leaders in the senate and house and state who are picking up the mantle of the democratic party and this isn t going to be hillary clinton s party. harris: you should call her so she knows. meghan: this mount personal version of hell where she comes on tv and tells her when why she should be president. fbi director james comey revealing yesterday that hillary clinton s top aide made a habit of forwarding emails containing classified information to her husband, disgraced congressman anthony weiner. here s the exchange. was her classified information on former congressman weiner s computer? yes. who sent it to him? his then spouse, huma abedin appears to have had a regular practice of forwarding emails to him to print out for her so she could then deliver them to the secretary of state. why did you conclude neither of them committed a crime? because with respect to miss abedin, we didn t have any indication that she had a sense that what you doing was an violation of the law. meghan: we are already starting to talk. harris: let me tell you where we went there. this is marie. these are actually recto actively classified documents, right? what does that matter? we are in it to win it now. this woman was walking into her home, so as far as we know, he had his laptop, honey, can you print this? i emailed you such an old by the way, let me upload a few? sandra: not once, not twice, but on a regular basis. meghan: he was also messaging underage women on the internet and being a complete pervert on the internet. charlie: who was the first person that brought that up? donald trump. dirt bag is now a presidential word, i m pretty sure. meghan: it shows the arrogance that our spies and allies go through the arrogance of huma abedin that she thinks she can send this to her pervert husband who may or may not have been under investigation when it was happening, completely expose our national secrets to god knows who on the internet. i understand the hat they re hanging this on, if it were you or me, and we had to mess with our husbands, i m telling you it would be a different story. the media continues to get this woman a free pass. she s at the met ball this weekend. she continues to be treated as a celebrity for whatever reason and it s absolutely inexcusable. she has put americans safety at risk and she should be charged or brought under. harris: harris: to answerr question, to address it, here is my overarching thought on all of this. this sits with the original person who sent and had the emails on men in secure server appear hillary clinton. what clearance to the people in that circle have a question mark we know anthony weiner had some kind of clearance, but was he cleared to receive those materials? is a stain on the house of both of these women. meghan: as much as i like talking about huma abedin, you do not. marie: i not going to lizza s argument, but i feel the need to make it as a former cia officer, i ve seen the emails that have been released publicl publicly. some of the stuff, not all, for you jump on me, some of the stuff that they went back and classified were media articles. i have to do it, it s cathartic for me to get this out. some of them were literally press articles about classified programs that were retroactively classified. yes, she should not have done it, she shouldn t have had the private server, meghan: she should hate you should hate her more than me, because the position she puts it when sandra: the classification is irrelevant. marie: is a ton of classification information and if we are in a place where press articles are classified and because of that, she is putting national security at risk, we all need to take a little bit of a deep breath here. that s all i m saying. meghan: i feel bad for the position they continue to put that in. you cannot here make it okay. what a difference a day makes. the big assist from president trump and the 11th hour, how his dealmaking skills may have made all the differenc difference. credit for getting personally involved in delivering some last-minute votes. white house aides are saying the president has been working the phones seriously and he was able to get four key moderates on board after meeting with them at the white house yesterday. here s one of those former holdouts. really long on how his note turned into a yes. one they made what i considered the change to pre-existing conditions, that s when i said, i may know. the president said billy, we need you. i said you don t have me. he said they need you. he called back yesterday, we need you, we need you, we need you. i m happy to announce that we will have pre-existing conditions covered adequately. harris: you are clearing your throat. charlie: so sorry. harris: can you explain how these nose are becoming yeses? the one thing i pointed out a week ago, yes it was the freedom caucus, but 60 votes they were worried about going into that friday a few weeks ago. only half of the more freedom caucus, the rest of the more moderate. charlie: as she pointed out earlier, it wasn t just the freedom caucus. what s interesting, it s moving the bill more leftward to include things like pre-existing conditions and things like that. again, at the end of the day, it baffles me that they are doing this without getting democrats to buy in to something. i think it will be a poor result. harris: you may want to get to the senate. charlie: yes, and when it gets past and the democrats can hang this entire thing on republicans. marie: here s the problem on pre-existing conditions. every single expert that has looked at this over the last 48 hours says, this will mean less coverage for pre-existing conditions, high risk pools do not work out well, and it s not enough money, people will see in their lives a change and pre-existing condition coverage. republicans are making promises they can t keep. that is a problem. harris: you have said before, and i think now is a valid point more than ever, that the american public needs to know more about what s going into this bill in the process. i m seeing on my twitter feed rate now that people have been trying to google it. what are your thoughts? meghan: what happens today isn t going to be the final bill that goes through the senate. as much as we can celebrate something happening today, i have no reason to believe that the exact battle that have been in congress isn t going to manifest itself again and the senate over things like pre-existing conditions, over things like medicaid, expansion expansion, harris: are you frustrated by this process? meghan: yes, because the momentum is waning a little bit. i was made a lot of promises and i was quite upset when they didn t come to fruition. i think the ideological battle will continue on and will be talking about this for a very long time. sandra: this is a significant moment. newt gingrich this morning on fox & friends said the passage of this bill will be an extraordinary moment, an example of president trump s negotiating prowess. when he talked about momentum, he also commented on speaker paul ryan getting credit saying he deserves a lot of credit for never backing down, despite the setbacks. charlie: what he is primarily talking about is if there are some changes and it too medicaid, medicare, that allow the bill to realize very large and important savings over a ten-year period, if that s a silver lining, that is a significant silver lining. sounds good. we should know in the next few minutes because if they are close to being on schedule, although out of the corner my eye, will pop it up or we can, they are still debating this on the house floor. we were anticipating a 1:00 p.m. eastern type vote, we are pushing up against that now and we are coming right back on outnumbered. 50 and 64 under trunk care, costs will go up. premiums will go up, co-pays will go up .kidney problems, or high potassium in your blood. tomorrow, tomorrow i love ya, tomorrow ask your heart doctor about entresto. and help make tomorrow possible. you re only a day away. many thanks to charlie hirt, marie harf as well, good to have you both, such an exciting hour. we are going to continue to stay
he hasn t been charged with anything yet. but it would be standard procedure, and a special counsel investigation, to look into any financial here s what jared kushner s lawyer is saying in a statement tonight. we do not know what this report refers to. it could be standard practice for the special counsel to examine financial records to look for anything related to russia. mr. kushner previously volunteered to share with congress what he knows about russia related matters. he will do the same if he is contacted in connection with any other inquiry. what s your reaction to that? it may turn up nothing. but this is part and parcel of this long drawn-out investigation that we re in for. the idea that any one of these little new additions of information is going to be the body blow that, you know, unravels this whole mystery or takes down the administration, that s not going to happen. on the other hand, the idea that any one of these stories on its own is going to vindicate kushner or president trump on their own is not going to happen. we re going to find out one way or the other, if there s any collusion, maybe there is, maybe there s not, we re going to find out one way or the other if there s any obstruction of justice. laura, speak to us about the significance of this. we spoke last hour, that this doesn t necessarily mean guilt. you know, less than 150 days in office, the president is reportedly under investigation. his son-in-law, and the finances being looked at. how much trouble is this for the administration? it s a great deal of trouble. politically speaking, of course, and legally, it s no picnic to have the fbi have a devoted person whose singular focus is to determine whether or not you violated the law. yes, it could ultimately come up that they are completely exonerated in some way, and vindicated. but realistically speaking, this is an indication this is going to be a thorough and very wide sweeping dragnet. there are people closer and closer to the president s orbit. with michael flynn, he, too, is entity to the demise of the united states. in doing so, you can t have one person who s pushing a lot of paper around, one bureaucrat in d.c. who is active. you have to have people taking very different angles, the obstruction angle, collusion, finances. that s why investigators are interviewing coats and rogers and everyone else, because they have to take a very wide approach. what this tells you is good news for the president of the united states, that there s not a narrow focus here. while he is now part of the probe and has by his own actions brought the magnifying glass above his head, anything is game. it tells you, of course, the focus, if it s not narrow, they don t know yet what they re looking for. it could be anything. that can in a way, that s not going to appease the president or make him feel comfortable, but it s a way of saying, look, we do not know yet what we have. which is why we cannot be presumptuous. you ve been around washington for a while. not saying anything about your age or anything. i earned all these gray hairs. you re a republican. and if you re in the white house, if you re part of the administration, you hire 13 attorneys, what are you thinking? i think laura s right, talking about the history of how the special counsel investigations work. this is an indication right now that it s a very thorough investigation, that it is potentially much wider. but i think the main worry i would have is, this goes to the politics of it, that it may take potentially longer. and right now, one of the big challenges this white house has is that it has a very ambitious agenda. it has control of both houses of congress. and has a lot of things it wants to get done. but this continues to really pull them away from their central core focus on things like the economy, and national security, and other big ticket items. and serves as a distraction. every day that the white house is on offense of what they want to do of what motivated voters to support donald trump in the first place is really a lost day. so every single day we see that the president and white house staff having to litigate this, makes it potentially more i would be nervous about this if i worked for donald trump. because, you know the wider part of it, yeah. right. there s theory, i don t know if it s true, that a theory that we all commit three felonies a day. if you followed me around all day, you could put pretty much i don t know about you, okay. i ll steer clear. what are you doing? my point is, look, starts off as a land deal in arkansas, and ends up with the president, you know, perjuring himself. or starts off with a valerie plaim leak and ends up with scooter libby. i think that, you know, it could be that there s no collusion, that there s no fundamental problem. but if you lie to the fbi, you go to jail. there could be a lot of people who did some things that, you know, weren t on the up-and-up. somebody s probably going to go down at some point i would think. there s something that laura said. i really think donald trump and his administration, but mainly donald trump brought this upon himse himself. it is his tweets, the things that he said. he said about james comey, he tweeted james comey better hope there aren t any tapes. they dropped the memo, well, i have a tweet. perhaps this investigation would not have become so extensive had donald trump exercised some level of restraint. yeah. and the vice president himself is now nervous as well. he s hiring his outside counsel. everyone s nervous, even proactively before the noose is closer to them. mike shields? look, you hear the tone of what we were talking about. kushner hasn t been charged yet. the walls are closing in. this is what washington does with one of these things. it sort of creates this tear of guilty by just coverage. coverage makes you guilty. the fact of the matter is, there s been scores of investigators looking at this russia thing for months now. they haven t found anything. there s literally the only thing 50i78 harping on it tonight it s illegal leaks. no one has been found guilty of anything. the point about the language but now we re talking about maybe we should be careful to say, people are innocent, all of them, until proven guilty. just because you re interviewed by somebody doesn t mean they re part of a grand jury investigation. they re being looked at. nothing has happened to them yet, people watching are thinking probably something is there. a lot of people will probably say, that s kind of what i mean i think we can all be a little more careful with our language, but i think that s just the vernacular that people well, that s why the president s pushing back so hard on this. you might understand why he gets so aggressively pushing back when he watches this kind of no, no. something probably happened. is he under investigation when he started crooked hillary? he s the one who started about talking about people being guilty, when nothing had been found. so i m sorry, if this kind of language bothers him, he brought it upon himself, just like every single thing that has happened up to now. you could point back and say, geez, if he just stopped his twitter fingers from going happily on his phone, he wouldn t be in half of the hot water as he is right now. to your point, kevin, i agree with you that he could easily try to distract us from all of this russia collusion, perhaps treason, obstruction of justice if he focused on his agenda, which i m sure the republicans would love. this is exactly the point i m trying to make. but let me wait, wait. that actually dovetails from the previous let me be quite precise on this point. i think you re harping on an issue that really avoids the forest for the trees. the point is this, one person who is to blame for this language that talks about very ominous and looming is james comey. because it has been a long-standing tradition that people don t comment on acting investigations for the very reasons you spoke of. the tar and feathering that happens in the court of public opinion and public square is precisely why people condemn james comey. now that he has started the pendulum in motion toward that arena, people are talking about things in the ominous tone you re talking about. it s not just the media who does it. it was the former director of the fbi. in doing so, it points out this particular point. you cannot discuss an active investigation, because it makes the public believe that there is far more to it. ultimately there may be exoneration here. but the problem here is what they re talking about, the president of the united states by not recognizing the fact that it s an active ongoing investigation is commenting on it in a way and making proactive steps where he s creating a greater issue. we ll be right back after this. whoooo. looking for a hotel that fits. .your budget? 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of course, he does. not only the statement at the baseball game today, but the statement he gave yesterday. these tweets are about pushing back on a political investigation of him. and he s using politics to push back on it and using his twitter account that he s done since running for office. it goes right past washington, d.c., past the media out to the american people. that s the way he wants to communicate with people. he s been pretty successful in doing that. then we show it on the screen and it gets to the american people. but my point and i want david to respond to this, if you are fighting something legally, does the court of public opinion matter? shouldn t he be doing having that fight with his attorneys, and doing it in a smarter way than maybe contradicting himself? something that attorneys can use? or even people on the other side of the political aisle can use? the court of public opinion matters and the legal fight matters if you re president trump. to your point, don, he s working at cross-purposes to a degree in this. yes, mike is right, he s communicating over the heads of the media, to his core supporters. but at the same time that he s sort of rallying the troops, he s also signaling to the rest of america the not the 38% of people who have the favorable view of him, but everybody else, that he s not taking the legal fight seriously, and that he s not approaching it in a way that we would typically describe as presidential. i just take this opportunity just to address one thing from what we were talking about before. you made a good point before about talking about when we say there s an investigation using the word yet. let s get that out of the way. you re right. everybody s innocent until proven guilty. you re right, we shouldn t say yet. now that that s out of the way, all the other issues still apply. we need answers to the question, why the president has been so solicitous of russia. we need answers to the question, why during a transition jared kushner is plegt with the head of a russian bank. we need answer to the question why was comey fired. very, very quickly, first of all, this was already this story was already out. it s interesting that it s suddenly news again. now he s a white house offerings who has taken on a foreign policy portfolio. it shouldn t be shocking that he s meeting with people. so, look it s not shocking. but why don t we add that context? when we say breathlessly, oh, my gosh, there s a leak, jared kushner is under investigation, for something that may have been part of his duties as a transition official. that s a long thing to apparently too long for a lot of people in washington. jared kushner being under investigation is not false. when we say, when you re explaining, you re losing. there are so many things that we have to explain. we have to put context to them when we talk about jared kushner, the president. there are so many things. we shouldn t have to add all that context. the media should have a responsibility to add the context to make sure they don t alter the context. absolutely. i don t think they re offering it, though. let s assume the media is not giving donald trump a fair shake. isn t it incumbent upon a politician to try to get good press? and if they get continuously, if they have their agenda derailed, is it the onus on them to say we have to figure out how to control the message, develop relationships with the press? if lynn november siger got bad press for reagan, they ll say, we re not doing a good job. i don t understand why you or others, every time that i m here, and i try to criticize the way the media has covered donald trump, it immediately comes back to it s donald trump s fault. i ve been working in politics for 20 years, and i ve seen conservatives not get a fair shake from the media. the media, if you look at the data, where media members give money to, who they vote for in primaries, they lean to the left. this is something that s been going on for years and years. hold them a little more accountable. be more self-reflective of their own for every action there is an equal reaction. they are the crooked media. they re not it needs to well, i m not do you want the media to say, no i would like the president of the united states to be better. why is the bar so low for donald trump? it performs a vital role in american politics. i want the media to be self-reflective and ask themselves why the public is losing faith in them. this is what the media hears when you say that. we want positive stories about donald trump. that s not the media s job. the media s job is to report. the reporting is not always positive. how about asking the media if something is right or wrong? 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i kind of know that. how do you know that? they are so easy to win. believe me, it is true. it is true. what do you think? well, you know, traditionally, so many of our allies are very cognizant about how important their relationship with the united states is to their standing on the international stage. and so many of our allies that are leaders, like prime minister turn bull, have gone to great lengths to build up presidents profiles domestically inside their own country. so i think that this is certainly a challenge right now that he believes that, you know, he can get away with this type of mockery of our president. and, you know, our relationships have changed since president obama has come into office. not to read too much into it like the white house correspondent dinner. not to read too much into it. i think we would be hard pressed to find that type of mockery in the past. this is certainly a challenge that i hope the white house takes seriously. because they need these type of relationships to be very strong. i was a little uncomfortable watching it. then i remembered, like, look at what we do at the white house correspondents dinner. we make fun of ourselves. and very mocking tones. and self-deprecating and everyone is okay with it. kevin brought up a good point, which is, i don t think we ve seen this before. i think there s a theme tonight, which is that a lot of what president trump s white house is going through, he brought it upon himself. he kind of brought this upon himself. can we remember, like with the phone call with the australian prime minister? and how he was insulted by it? there s an irony to this. one of the big pitches for trump during the campaign is that when he became president, the whole world was going to respect america again. that nobody was going to make fun of us ever again. stand by. play this clip. play this clip. at what boint does america get demeaned? at what point do they start laughing at us? we don t want other leaders and other countries laughing at us anymore. and they won t be. they won t be. this is so ironic. they were laughing at him about two weeks before when he was giving that egregious speech. so, you know, i just you know what, though, i don t doubt they re laughing at him in syria right now. i don t think assad is laughing at him. i don t know why the north koreans gave back a hostage, but they did. you know, i ve been very critical of donald trump. very bad conditions, by the way. true. true. i ve been very critical of donald trump, and i think fairly so. but i think the one area we are better off in terms of i think people are a little more afraid of us than they used to be. that s a good thing when there are bad actors. but let s talk about the i want to but our allies think we re giving up global leadership. no, listen, on specifically the australia issue they re saying we are leaving a void on the global stage of i think i think president obama s weakness invited a lot of provocation, including putin and russia. i ve been critical of donald trump. but i actually think some of the stuff other countries tried to get away with when obama was president, they will think twice. well, that s a good point. in 2014, obama got australia, the eu, the uk, et cetera, together and put the sanctions regime in place against putin that remains today. that was obama. president trump has talked tough. he hasn t done anything on that to that point with obama. the reason the first occur fufful came up, he struck a deal on refugees that trump would accept as soon as he came into office. the reason they got into a dustup which i think president trump would say, yeah, what i said was, i m not accepting that deal. if you don t like it, i m going to hang the phone up on you. they re not laughing at him when they re trying to make the policy on refugees. they may make a joke at a dinner, but they re not laughing at him when they re saying, let s put one over on him the iranians got our the sailors, i don t think that happens with donald trump as president. you all have to be kidding me. you all have to be kidding me. i don t think iran no, i don t think our sailors what i m hearing from y all is what i m hearing is you think america is in better standing with donald trump as president. absolutely right. absolutely right. absolutely? 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well, i think it s one of the issues. the law in pennsylvania is the reason he s never going to be convicted at least on two of the charges. it s not possible. and let me just quickly explain. for the drugging charge, for example, you can only find someone guilty if they drug you for the purpose of raping you, without your knowledge. and even andrea constand said she knew he drugged her. that charge is never going to end with a guilty, ever. and i predicted that a year ago. the other drugging related charge pertains to her state of intoxication, or incapacitation, when the sexual assaults happened. under pennsylvania law, you have to be asleep or unconscious. and andrea constand testified she was frozen, she was paralyzed, but she wasn t unconscious or asleep. that charge is never going to end with a guilty, ever, no matter how many times you try this case. but here s what i think about the jury. it has nothing to do with race, at all. the reason the jury may be filled with a kind of bias that will not be good for the victim, in addition to all the problems with the law, is that there are men, seven of them, who were not allowed to be asked by the prosecution when they are being selected, whether they ve ef done anything like this to a woman. they or someone close to them. when you allow men who have done bad things to women, to sit on juries, in any state, and it s allowed in lots of states, they re looking at cosby going, that could have been me. i m not voting guilty for that guy. you re making a lot of presumptions about the jurors. i m just saying you re not allow to screen. but if you re not allow to screen out jurors who have sexually assaulted women, and remember, nine out of ten rapes are never reported. i m not talking about convicted rapists, i m talking about men who sexually assault women and it never gets reported. nine out of ten rapes are never reported. there s a chance people showing up for the men showing up for jury duty, you ve got good percentages that some of them will have done something like this at some point in their life. seven men on a jury, you re not allowed to exclude those who have committed sexual assault. they re going to protect him. areva, what do you think? that s a lot of assumptions. we shouldn t gloss over the ratio issue here. there are studies that show that when you have an all-white jury pool, the chances of conviction for an african-american defendant is in the 70s. 75%. that s why the defense team fought so hard to have african-americans on this jury. and tlr were huge fights about the exclusion of a couple of women that the defense argued were on the basis of race. but the judge determined there were other grounds for the exclusion of them. i think the presence of the two african-american jurors on this jury pool may also be a big reason as to why these jurors, these 12, cannot come to a consensus with respect to but she s a woman of color, too. she s a woman of color, too. she is not an african-american woman. to say a canadian woman is a woman of color, the studies are very clear that when you have african-american jury pool, the chances of conviction go down substantially. not when you re bill cosby or o.j. simpson. to say con stand is a black woman, that s just not happening. do you think he ll be tried somewhere else? quickly, because i m running out of time? i don t think so. i know wendy thinks there will be another criminal prosecution. i think people will be so disappointed, i think you ll see protests. we ve already seen protesters confronting people on the courtroom steps. i don t think there will be another prosecution. if he is acquitted there will be clambering in the streets. huge protests for him to be prosecuted in some of the other jurisdictions. there are five other states where the clock has not yet run out. women will rise up and demand that he face justice, someplace, somehow. that s going to have to be the last word. it doesn t mean it s going to be a criminal prosecution. when we come back, amazing new cnn series showcasing people who are changing the world. i go through periods where it s hard to sleep at night, and stay awake during the day. learn about non-24 by calling 844-844-2424. or visit my24info.com. looking for a hotel that fits. .your budget? tripadvisor now searches over 200 sites to find you the hotel you want at the lowest price. grazie, gino! find a price that fits. tripadvisor. the future isn t silver suits anit s right now.s, think about it. we can push buttons and make cars appear out of thin air. find love anywhere. he s cute. and buy things from, well, everywhere. how? 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yes, i did. i wanted to be adventurous. connie is widowed now and her two stepsons live abroad. her crippling arthritis is forcing her to make changes. she can t shop anymore. she can t cook for herself. and she rarely leaves home. what now are your biggest frustrations? i used to love to just go shoppi shopping. and i used to do my own thing. and i can t. 46 million americans are 65 or older. 1 in 6 of them struggle with hunger. good morning, guys. good morning. who has done this before? that s where city meals on wheels begins. i got a flyer in the mail one holiday. i saw that even the smallest donation can enable someone who lives completely alone to have a special holiday meal. and the reality is, this is about much more than providing hot food. if there s no one at home, do not leave the meal. you are not just delivering a meal today. you re checking in on our seniors. beth shapiro is the executive director of new york s city meals on wheels. people are so afraid, we re all so afraid of losing what we hold near and dear. and yet you see that every day. ipse it every day. and to me, it s beautiful. you know, to look at someone who has the wrinkles of a life well lived is something to celebrate. in new york city alone, the program serves more than 18,000 people. two-thirds of them are women. nationwide, more than 5,000 local meals on wheels programs help 2.5 million seniors. when you go to deliver today, our seniors can be very chatty. okay? please talk to them, have a conversation. you re the only person they re going to see today. okay? what gives you the most joy now? i guess i have to just say, be grateful that you re fairly well. learning to accept what is. that s what i m at that point. on average, city meals on wheels costs $7 a meal in new york. how you feel today? oh, fairly well. you know, this arthritis. may has been delivers meals on wheels to connie for almost two years. how much has it changed your life? well, i guess completely. because i can t cook. connie is able to live at home, thanks to meals on wheels. and meals on wheels exists thanks to individual donations. 10% of the funding comes from the government. we privately raise the remaining 90%. every dollar donated goes to meals, not overhead. and the financial need is growing quickly. the senior population is the fastest growing population in this country. it will be doubled across the country by the year 2050. the program needs to grow. this is the president s fy-2018 budget. there was outrage after the trump administration announced it may make cuts to programs like meals on wheels. we can t spend money on programs because they sound good. we re going to spend money. we re going to spend a lot of money but we re not going to spend it on programs that cannot show they actually deliver the promise we ve made to people. it s unclear if the program will face any cuts. but shapiro says meals can t afford even the smallest cut-back. it will have a devastating effect on the lifeline and in a infrastructure that meals on wheels programs provide across the country. when the politicians make the final budget decisions, it s worth remembers, they re talking about people. people like connie pierce. and up next on champions for change, learn about the cause that s closest to poppy harlow s hear, tomorrow morning in the 8:00 a.m. hour of new day. and to see more of our anchors, go to cnn.com/championsforchange. plus, don t miss the one-hour champions for change special, it s hosted by dr. sanjay gupta, saturday night, 9:00 eastern. it features highlights from the whole week. champions for change, a week-long cnn special event, is brought to you by charles schwab. i want to show you one of the most emotional parts of tonight s congressional baseball game. a capitol police officer who risked his life responding to wednesday s attack on republican baseball program threw out the first pitch. pretty good pitch, i thought. david bailey walking onto the field on crutches to very loud applause. although he did not suffer a gunshot wound, capitol police said that bailey was treated for a minor injury. the other capitol police agent who was on sight yesterday when shots were fired is crystal griner, she was shot in the ankle and remains hospitalized on thursday. and we are wishing her the best. both of them, the best. they are truly heroes. and we wanted to honor them tonight on this program. that s it for us tonight. thank you so much for watching. i ll see you right back here tomorrow night. good night. when used with diet and exercise. trulicity is not insulin. it should not be the first medicine to treat diabetes or for people with type 1 diabetes or diabetic ketoacidosis. do not take trulicity if you or a family member has had medullary thyroid cancer, if you ve had multiple endocrine neoplasia syndrome type 2, or if you are allergic to trulicity. stop trulicity and call your doctor right away if you have symptoms such as itching, rash, or trouble breathing; a lump or swelling in your neck; or severe pain in your stomach area. serious side effects may include pancreatitis, which can be fatal. taking trulicity with a sulfonylurea or insulin increases your risk for low blood sugar. common side effects include nausea, diarrhea, vomiting, decreased appetite and indigestion. some side effects can lead to dehydration, which may make existing kidney problems worse. with trulicity, i click to activate what s within me. if you want help improving your a1c and blood sugar numbers with a non-insulin option, click to activate your within.