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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 06:16:00

I will do it. in a way, i suppose, if she gave things to you then the feds, or the other investigative agencies, wouldn t have access to them. well yes. but when those boxes of records arrived, sean and jen dived and ravenous lee to see what they could uncover. who keeps all of those documents? 30,000. that must have been some job going through all of this stuff. it was overwhelming. it was. i did feel conflicted about digging into my mom s affairs. but i had to know the truth. then, shawn turned on one of the computers his mom had sent for safekeeping. he intended their kids to use it, so he wanted to make sure it was clean. he checked the trash bin and could not believe what he saw. there were photos of my stepdad, bob, deceased. dead. dead. there are many photos in there. ....

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 06:32:00

Quick to punish if you crossed a line. he knew it was a, your life was not going to be as pleasant for a period of time. what did you think when you saw her treating sean that way? it made me angry. even so, shawn tried to stay loyal to his mom. but now, he was about to go against her in a way he had never imagined. he had seen the photos of dead bobsled, body contact and the agent, and now he and jen were turning up things for the investigation. we were coming across all these what we would call crazy, crazy documents. we couldn t wrap our brain around them. one of those documents was bob s will. bob had married before he had married martha ann he hadn t seen his daughter in a long time. he wanted nothing to do with her. i don t want you to know better death. i am leaving you $1 of my ....

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 06:14:00

That hurts. it must be something to know that this woman who was your best friend hid herself from you and conned you all these years. absolutely. she took me for a complete sucker. chuck too. he would go and present the flags to the widow of a veteran who had lost his life. that is cruel. the people that he took in under that do not deserve that. and it wasn t long before sean and jen were reading online in disbelief about shawn s own mother martha ann caught in and outrageous fraud with chalk. we found out the day after that they were arrested on eight federal indictments. that s how you found? that s how we found out. ....

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 06:15:00

major hard stop. very overwhelming. martha ann stole her dead husband s valor. she never says shared a single day in any armed services. she assumed bob s purple heart and told these veterans groups that that was her purple heart that she received in 9/11, pentagon attack. by early 2013, martha ann and chuck were sentenced chuck has 30 months federal, and martha ann got 20. they spent most of their ill gotten gains, of course. so before her prison sentence, martha ann decided to sell the house for restitution. she started boxing up all of her belongings and selling things. closing up the house. but martha ann was a notorious pack rat. she had kept everything. trunks full of clothes, thousands of pages of receipts, contracts, documents. so what did she do? she gave them to her son shawn and his wife jen for safekeeping. she asked me to do something, ....

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 06:17:00

there were photos of bob mcclancy lying dead in his recliner in 2006. what was it like to see those pictures? disturbing. here where the pictures that told an entirely different story to what shawn and jen knew. one picture, bob would have a pistol, and in another picture he would have a bottle of pills in the other. and another picture, bob would have a bottle of pills and nothing in the other hand. it was odd how he was in the chair. the way his leg was placed, looking back at, that you could tell that that was body manipulation. the pictures didn t appear to be police photos because they were all apparently taken before any police arrived on the scene. so you called the cops? right away. shawn, conflicted, was suddenly faced with the prospect that he may be implicating his own mom. torn, he called nate, the va investigator, and began to tell him all about bob mcclancy s death in 2006. he said i want to talk to you about this and get it off ....

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