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Exactly what's going on here. is that this experience winds again is another way of putting it. >> yeah, it's hard to think of a deal, as you put it lawrence, that could be any better than this. and it keeps getting better as we learn more about it turns out those little rule change and those times, remember they were gonna impose all these draconian work rules on poor people who get food stamps. it's turns out that biden negotiated a deal in which more money and more people will be covered in food stamp programs, so that's how bad a deal kevin mccarthy negotiated. now i don't know whether it'...

The work rules. >> the message was not only to president biden, but also to the house republican caucus. that if they want democratic votes, then it's got to be a reasonable deal. otherwise you're not going to get democratic votes. let's take a step back as to why we're here. in addition to a republican manufactured crisis, the other reason we are here is because donald trump put in these massive tax cuts for the wealthy and the top 1%. they weren't paid for. in fact, 25% of the national debt was accrued under one administration, the trump administration, with these massive tax cuts that drama...

I know Americans are very worried about the economy as well they should be because between Congress, the WH and the “Fed”, it’s going to get very, very ugly.  2008 will look like prosperity when so many still haven’t recovered from the destructive and unnecessary COVID lockdowns.

They worth delaying this whole process? >> my understanding is that your fixated on work rules and whether they began in fiscal year, 2024, i don't to lose anybody in the weeds versus fiscal, your 2025. it seems like you're tinkering at the margins. >> welfare to work should be a cornerstone of the negotiation, if bill clinton a new gingrich can work, deals than certainly we should be able to make those with joe biden. and if any feature of this deal is sincere, it will start immediately. the oldest trick in washington is to delay things two, three, five years down the road to tell the voters ...

Commitments. it would be like me with a spending problem instead of curbing my spending now instead risking default and saying to creditors, i'm not going to honor the commitments i've made. >> no. i speak from personal experience when i say that when you've maxed out your credit cards, it's a pretty good time to evaluate your spending habits. and in the seven years i've been in congress, we haven't honored the true budget process even once. so the debt limit presents a unique opportunity to try to put downward pressure on spending four times when joe biden as the united states senator voted t...