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but at this point, don, it's a negotiation, and i think the committee will do whatever they can to get that testimony out of cipollone. >> john, you've been saying on this program and to anyone who will listen that you think it's critical cipollone testifies publicly like you did. are there legitimate privilege issues that would justify him testifying in a transcribed interview limited to specific topics? or should he appear in a more public manner? >> i think he's got to appear in a more public manner, and i don't think there's any privileges in that area they're focusing on. we've ...

subpoenas pat cipolline. the witness talked about him. every one has been talking about that. pat cipollone is the former president's white house counsel, a key witness to what was going on inside the white house the days before, the time during and after the attack on the united states capitol. we have been trying to get him to answer -- they have been trying i should say to get him to answer more questions after previously sitting behind closed doors in april. the committee has been saying it's trying to obtain evidence that cipollone is, quote, uniquely positioned to testify but h...

are there legitimate privilege issues that would justify him testifying in a transcribed interview limited to specific topics? or should he appear in a more public manner? >> i think he's got to appear in a more public manner, and i don't think there's any privileges in that public area they're focusing on. we've already had courts look at the issue. there's no attorney-client privilege for crime or fraud. cipollone i think has a larger problem. he advised the president against doing these things because there were conspiracies involved, several of them. what's to say that he's ever ...

response, while the gunman was inside that classroom. we now know, some of the pictures there, 11 officers responded to the school within three minutes and those images show officers not only heavily armed in the hallway, but also with protective gear. they still waited 58 minutes to enter that classroom, take down the shooter. cnn's rosa flores has the latest on the investigation. >> i find it shameful we had almost 100 officers on the scene and i had to leave work and save my own. >> outrage palpable in uvalde, texas, as first image from inside robb elementary during the shooting i...

is joining me from jerusalem. what in terms of the focus, what have we seen here for the president's visit? >> reporter: well, we just saw president biden arriving in bethlehem at the presidential compound where he was greeted by mahmoud abbas. this is the first visit by a u.s. president to meet with the palestinian authority president since president trump visited in 2017. and this comes as the u.s. is really trying to shift its policy towards the palestinians. we have watched the biden administration turn back on the spigot of humanitarian aid to the palestinian people that was cut...