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Magazines Kim Henderson talks about efforts to reduce assistance to the supplemental nutritional assistance host good morning monday, january 22. Its day three of the first Government Shutdown since 2013. House and senate will try to find a way out of the current impasse. Hassle meet at noon and the senate at 10 00 a. M. With a vote scheduled to move for a bill to fund the government for three more weeks. Well talk about it on washington journal. We want to hear from you. Democrats can call in at 202 7488000. Republicans 202 7848001. Independents 202 7488002. Have a special line this morning for federal employees. 202 7488003. A very good monday morning to you. You can start calling and as we show you headlines in the papers this morning. Workthe washington post, week begins. The front page of the New York Times and their wrapup of the events of the hill. Much of the day yesterday, the work by a Bipartisan Group of senators offers a reason for cautious optimism that a deal might be reached soon. In a gesture to lawmakers seeking assurances that the senate will address the dreamers, Mitch Mcconnell said he intends to move ahead with immigration legislation next month if it is not resolved by then. Senate democrats made no sign they would get on board with the temporary spending bill. Here is Mitch Mcconnell late last night from the floor of the senate. When it comes to an end, the serious bipartisan negotiations that have been going on for months now to resolve unfinished spending,military Disaster Relief, health care, immigration, Border Security will continue. It would be my intention to resolve these issues as quickly as possible so we can move on to other business that is important to the country. However, should these issues not be resolved by the time the funding bill before us expires assuming that the government remains open, it would be my intention to proceed with legislation that would relate to daca, Border Security, and related issues. The shutdown should stop today. Vote thaton have a will allow us to do exactly that. Brink,tep back from the lets stop victimizing the American People. Lets get back to work on their behalf. Host there are two ways that offer is being played. First from the huffington post. Mcconnell offer. Breitbartservative news network, they call it amnesty first. Schumer rest rejects the threeweek budget. To happenis expected today after it was postponed last night. We will see what happens when the senate convenes at 9 00. Here is Chuck Schumer on the floor of the senate late last night. It stems from the president. His inability to clinch a deal has created the trump shutdown. Majority mcconnell, the trump shutdown was totally avoidable. President trump walked away from to bipartisan deals. Thats after he walked away from an agreement we reached on daca back in the fall of last year. If you did willing to accept these deals, we wouldnt be where we are today. On friday in the oval office, i made what i thought was a very generous offer to the president. Demanded that a deal on docket include the wall. Most of us to a crest dont think the wall is expensive effective. Every expert will tell you that drones and sensory devices and personnel are for more effective than the wall. Because the president campaigned on the wall, even though he said it would be paid for by mexico and demands the wall, for the sake of compromise, for the sake of coming together, i offered it, despite what people are saying on tv. These are people not in the room during discussions. That is exactly what happened. Host those comments from Chuck Schumer yesterday afternoon. The white house put out a statement from Sarah Sanders about how senator schumer remembers that meeting with the president. We want to hear your thoughts this morning. We have a special line during federaldown for employees. We want to hear from you. That number is 202 7488003. Cornell, good morning. Caller good morning. There here in south jersey, eagles are going to the super bowl. Getting back to the topic at hand, we as democrats and republicans have a duty to have some decency and honor and deny what going on because the holding usparty is hostage behind the wall. Ive heard thousands of republicans say mexico was going to pay for the wall. Mexico ismp said going to pay for the wall. How lower we going to go, when are we going to say enough is enough . Its imperative that the democrats, if they want to keep any decency about themselves, they should stick to their guns. Republicans stole a Supreme Court justice last year. There is no honor in the Republican Party. Host lets go to the line for republicans. Good morning. Your television. Kathy waiting in arkansas. Good morning. Caller good morning, john. The democrats. Ut if people would open their eyes and see what the democrats are doing. You can see right through them. I just want to say one more thing. Please wake up. Vote these democrats out. They are sitting up there getting paid to argue and carry on. I think its ridiculous. Host what are they trying to do . Do you believe democrats are trying to do . Caller they never take responsibility for anything. They are always blaming trump. I can see right through them. Its very obvious. They just want to destroy our country. Vote them out. Host kathy mentioned members being paid by the shutdown. Many are for going there salaries. This is a congressman from illinois on twitter. He testified your of his letter to the house chief administrative officer. Other members of congress are doing the same thing. For in arizona on the line democrats. Go ahead. Schumerto me, losey and have a lot of money. They should give some of that money to the poor. They make that money the crooked. They are holding the military hostage. They want immigrants to come across the border so they can get votes. Worked 2inton billion and they get another billion dollars they got on the side. The reason im telling you this is the lord is speaking to me. There is so much going on in washington like the fbi is corrupt. Host alonso is a federal worker in louisiana. Shutdown affecting you . Caller thank you for at least trying to open up some eyes that have been glued shut for years. 72 going on 73 years old. I work with veterans on a constant basis. Ive involved with the Mental Health program. I get enough money to live off. I have saved for my retirement. Things going on now that were going on in the 80s. I write letters to the editor on occasion. Venue toats a good let your opinion be known. I dont do that anymore. This bantering back and forth, they are both in the pockets of wall street. They just cant get out of it. They guess what our Founding Fathers intended. Everybody we need to go back to the basics. People need to get their own Victory Garden going. The he is referring to 80s, plenty of shutdowns in the 80s and 90s as well. This chart from the wall street journal noting that the shutdowns in the 80s were generally short. 1981, only two days. In 1983, 3 days. In 1990, a three day shutdown and then that longer shutdown in 1995 led to 800,000 workers being for load. It marked the longest shutdown today. In 2013, a 16 day shutdown. We will see how long this goes. We are in a three of the Government Shutdown. Most federal offices are closed. We want to hear from federal workers this morning on how you are impacted. Hat line is 202 7488003 it added is one of those federal workers. Good morning. I would like to thank you for the opportunity. Dont think people understand i was a federal employee. I am retired now. There are National Guard technicians, they are for load. We are not only hurting the federal employees, we are hurting the people that wear the uniform on a daytoday basis. Guardsmen have been put on furlough, which means the training and the equipment is not going to take place. This is affecting federal employees, its affecting our national defense. Host that was added in florida. Lacking partyors backing. A lot of the focus yesterday in the negotiations was the work of a proposal of the group of 20 moderates led by Susan Collins from maine, hosting those 20 fellow moderates. Among the participants in that meeting were a number of democrats seeking reelection states that President Trump one in 2016. Five of them voted against the shutdown in the first place. This is senator Susan Collins along with lisa murkowski, talking about the work. I think its important to recognize the sooner we can come to an agreement to open up the government, to reopen the government, the better it is for republicans, the battered is for democrats, the better it is for the country. 20 bipartisan legislators, we need to be working with our Leadership Team to have them come to a level of consensus. We want to provide support for that consensus. Time youas the last saw 22 senators meeting day after day, a number of tenders keeps growing with each meeting that we have. Committed tohem is getting to a solution. That is very encouraging. We havent seen that around here for quite some time. Floor hase on the been very different from we hear from you. Are they on board with what you are working on a peer . Ofthey are very much aware our meetings and our efforts. There will be members who will be going to talk to them and discuss possible options. Ultimatelye that its the decision of Mitch Mcconnell and Chuck Schumer how we proceed. We are not trying to preempt that. Andre trying to be helpful show them there is a path forward, and that a substantial number of senators from both parties are eager to find that path. Host we are taking your calls on the washington journal on day three of the Government Shutdown. Joseph is calling in from california. Thank you for getting up early for us. Caller i just want to make it filibuster is the shutdown. Thank you. Host wayne is in ohio on the line for republicans. Caller i am concerned about the impact on the morale of our men and women overseas. Out are trying to figure how my going to get money to my family so they can start eating. Taking care of all of the expenses of the household back in the states. They are so far away. This is a severe morale issue. If you remember we had a horrendous problem with suicides in afghanistan. People are so despond and about being abandoned by our country. They shoot themselves in the latrines. Its incredible. The so upset about shutdown. It is schumers fault. Drastic action has to be taken now. Stop this insanity immediately. Host howard is on the line for democrats. Nerve it takes a lot of for Mitch Mcconnell to get on the floor the senate and blame the democrats for this. When they had that bipartisan meeting in the oval office, the president said that he would accept any offer that was put on his desk. A couple of days later they put an offer and he rejected. Even mcconnell admitted he hasnt know what the present once. I things is all about that stupid wall. He said the mexicans were going to pay for it, which is a dumb idea. They dont care if their people leave. Thats like putting up a fence and when its built, my neighbor is going to pay for it. Its ridiculous. Thats all i have to say. , you thinkrds theyre worried by wall . They wont be worried about coming to the country, even with that wall. Host caroline is a federal worker in baltimore. Are you going to work today . No. We will have a meeting at 10 00. Work. Ot going to i will be working from home. This shutdown is just ridiculous. I think ive become numb to the situation. They treat us like we are ponds in the system. Pawns. All parties have lost touch with us. They use us to play their games. I am disappointed. I used to think the federal government was stable. Its not stable employment anymore. Financiallyte that i can handle the impact. There are some who live paycheck to paycheck. Host do you think you will get paid back for the time . Caller i hope we do. Again, there is no consistency. During the last time we shutdown, we got paid. You just dont know. Host barbara is in texas. Good morning. Caller my thing is the guy earlier, this has nothing to do with the wall. Attachingdo with them docket to our budget. They showed the Illegal Immigrants over the american military. Host what you think about President Trumps leadership during the shutdown . It started on the oneyear anniversary of the day he was sworn into office. Caller the way i feel about it i think they should take dr. Away from our budget. It has nothing to do with our budget. My son is in the military. Hes not going to get paid. The senators are going to get paid. I dont understand that. Congress doesnt need to get paid, but the military does need to get paid. Host that was barbara in texas. This is the lead story in the usa today. Trop is largely on the sidelines. Tocanceled a weekend trip 100,000 wentre on without them. His last public remarks came in a speech about antiabortion protesters on friday. It made no mention of the shutdown. The only glimpse of the president came in photos taken by a white house photographer and released by the press office. It was Vice President mike pence on a middle east tour that spoke to troops and to the American People about what the shutdown means for the United States. This is mike pence overseas to were not going to reopen negotiations until they reopen the government and give you the benefits and wages you earned. Host we will monitor the president s twitter page and give the latest of what he has to say. We mostly want to hear from you. Phone lines for democrats, republicans, independents,. We have a phone line for federal employees. 202 7488003. William, are you with us . The whole thing with the immigration could be settled so easily. All they have to do is the people who are here stay here. You have to apply to get citizenship like everybody else. Anybody that is illegal thats , theycompletely illegal should be deported. The borders should be closed down for now. They should work it all out. Its simple. No one gets upset, no one is leaving. Theyve got a right to apply for citizenship. If they committed a crime, they should be deported. Dont let nobody and until they have straightened out the problems. Host we will see what other viewers think of that puzzle from william. Bob is in massachusetts. What do you think . Caller good morning. My point of view here would be that mr. Schumer is deceiving. It takes 60 votes to pass stuff. Andess the president republicans are only in charge of two branches of the government and not three. I would like to say that the 10 million Illegal Immigrants in they worky right now, in trimming 2 trillion a year. I with someone would give them a calculator. Million, among 10 thats 200,000. 200,000 ahead . Thats what they are earning in our country right now . Host lori is in california, a democrat. I really think its a trump shutdown. In the having Trump White House is is batting having as bad as having settler in the white house. I think he is going to be a dictator and america will be another dictatorship. Host do you think settler comparisons are helpful . Caller yes. Ifs going to get that bad people dont wake up and get him out of there. Host you think its going to get as bad as hitlers germany . Caller i can see it getting that bad. Host deb is in huntington indiana. Go ahead. Caller ive been watching this thing it for a couple of days. Im encouraging everybody i know as well as i am writing the senators myself. People are going left versus right. We need a law that says no one can shut down the government causing financial harm to american citizens while people themselves collect their money and their benefits. We are getting too wrapped up in whose fault. Dictates that to keep a bill clean and simple, you deal with the issue and then move on to the next. All of these things added onto a bill that they want to try to get through. Lets keep it simple. Lets keep our common sense. Lets not let these people harm us financially. They should be protecting us. Host when it comes to those meetings behind the scenes between moderate senators, why arent all of the senators meeting . They will be back in session at 10 00 this morning. We will see what happens on the noon vote. These are some other tweets. Midst iss clear in the that both parties have lost touch with the American People or with the people that find washington incomprehensible. Meust want pelosi to tell when it went all about jobs two all about daca. One more from joe. We have been talking to federal employees. I want to hear what federal employees have to think. Family members of federal employees can call in on that line. Jersey, andin new independent. Caller thank you for cspan. I want to make a couple of points. This is about daca. That congress has willingly chosen to put these daca people ahead of our military, our anddren, legal americans people that were born here naturally. The thing that bothers me is when you hear people say this group of people were brought here through nault fault of their own. Im going to address this to the africanamerican community. This is annoying to me. More than of people the africanamericans have been brought here through no fault of their own. These people to get their act together. They need to understand that they should be concentrating on National Born americans, legal americans, our children and stop all of this with daca. These people were brought here by their parents. Their parents knew what they were doing when they brought them here illegally. They brought them here and expected the american taxpayer to take care of them from cradle to grave. This is a tragedy. It needs to stop. Charity begins at home. Work with the people that along in this country first. Host here is a democratic congressman of california late last night talking to reporters about daca and immigration policy. We are really making progress. Im pleased the senators are working through it, trying to figure out how to put together an immigration issue. Docket is the centerpiece of it. Now they are talking about a broader package. This issue has been plaguing the nation for more than 20 years. Its a very serious problem. We need border protection, we need to get daca done. Agricultural workers issues, weve got work to do. My concern is when the senate gets its act together, which it will monday in the early afternoon, what about the house of representatives western mark its a very conservative operation. Im not at all sure they are going to go with any immigration issues. Weve got to work. Over the weekend, i spent time with some conservative members of the congress on the issue of immigration and some leaders on the daca side, trying to find the ground. Its there. Weve got to work this through. Weve got to end the shutdown. Its important for all of the reasons weve talked about. Weve got a flu epidemic going on. We need the cdc up and operating. We did the clinics operating. Lets get this done. Host here are some headlines around the country. These are headlines americans are waking up to. Page of thefront San Francisco chronicle. Oregonian thishe morning. We want to hear your thoughts on day three of the shutdown. Chris is in louisiana, a democrat. Good morning. Caller how are you doing . I just wanted to comment on a lot of the hypocrisy im seeing. I cant understand how they signal Party Controls both houses of congress and the white house and the Supreme Court, they cant get a government funded. The filibuster was written into the constitution for a reason, so one party cant run roughshod over the entire country. If they cant figure out a way to make a deal, if this deal maker in chief president who is supposed to be the ultimate dealmaker that we put into the white house to make deals cant make a deal to open his government, i dont know what can, i dont know how we blame democrats. Ive heard two provisions from democrats on cspan. One guaranteed pay for the military during the shutdown. That was shut down by mcconnell. Anyone talking about we need to provide for the military and care about the military, watch Claire Mccaskill attempting to do that for our military. Now is the first time i havent heard from them in almost two days. What to doing . Hes not at the meetings. Host the president did tweet yesterday and brought up the idea of doing away with the filibuster. Caller that was his one comment of the day. On your average day, he is saying all kinds of stuff on twitter, on tv. Talking about how much the media is unfair to them. Now when we need him to make a deal, all he is talking about is blowing up the constitution. Virginia,springfield, a federal worker. Good morning. Good morning. Our you at work today . Caller i am on my way. Host argue a federal employee that is deemed necessary . Caller not really. Its just a procedural shutdown, to make sure everything is in place. theyl concern is this are worried about funding the military. Fund them. Just pass a bill. A bill for funding of whatever federal agency is necessary and get it done. Stop doing the crs, the continuing resolutions dont do anything except kick the can. If they are worried about federal workers getting the job done, then fund us. Give us the money we need to get the job done. Everything else is just politics, immigration, building the wall. Thats what matters. Host the attorney general has Washington Times today. He writes in that oped. That is the attorney general in the Washington Times today. We are on the line for republicans. Caller thanks for cspan. I want to make a couple of points to i think the caller really reflects the problems. Young ready to throw out people who were brought here as children through no fault of their own. She says their parents were responsible. Countrye been in this through no fault of their own, they are not criminals. Are prepared to have their legislators throw them out. As mary lou said, she ignores that trump is breaking a promise. People,to the american claiming mexico would pay for the wall. Billion, he wants to build a wall that will not be effective, that nobody thinks druglords will prevent coming in. Thats what this budget is about. They are deflecting it to be about daca. He thinks he can govern effectively by twitter. Thats ridiculous. Put in an effective administration. Way, Claire Mccaskill tried to exempt the military. Think what 20 billion would do for our soldiers in afghanistan. This budget, it is about the wall. Reform, theon republicans used a strategy. Now they will want the strategy they initiated used against them. I am upset. The Republican Voters tried to trust trump. Now he is breaking yet another promise. Host david is in west virginia. Go ahead. Caller where is the sense of urgency . All the have debated is blame and criticism of each other. Debated any spending bills, any immigration. If they do approve the cr through the eighth of february, they will go home thursday. The republicans will do something in west virginia. They will be here for the whole week into february. They will come back for three days in february. They will be back in the same boat. How would they have anything done by then . There is no sense of urgency. We might as well keep it closed until they start actually debating. There is no sense of urgency if they just keep doing these crs. Host does that mean come to the agreement on immigration and do a deal to fund the government for the rest of the year at the same time . Should the government be reopened first . Would you be ok with a promise from republicans . Youve got to do the funding. They been working on that. Theyve had a year to work on that. Now theyve had four months of crs. Thats what they should have fixed. Thats what they need to fix first. Then they give into the immigration. Its not just daca. They need to do the whole thing. Not just piecemeal. Kansas on thein line for democrats. Caller thank you for taking my call. Ive got four points. December, when we shouldve been taking care of this problem with our financing, we were that on giving tax breaks to the rich. Someso they could give sort of wind to the president. Trick. A if you take something away from the other party and they might lose that part, then theyve got to negotiate something to give back. That is the immigration. They took away to have a bargaining chip. Gerrymandering, they dont represent the people in their district. They represent the people they want to represent. Is payingd say who for their being in office. Thisr four, we started problem last year when we started making Supreme Court say money is a vote. You have corporations making policy in this country. They dont have any family. They are nothing more than just money. Thats where your problem is coming up. Thats why you have such division in the country. Host on the issue of the threeweek cr with a promise to take up immigration, matthew writes in. A few other tweaks this morning. One more from john a. The president has been clear on where he thinks the blame lies. Heres a story and government executive. A message blames democrats for holding the government hostage. This is what you hear if you call the white house phone number. We cannot answer your call today because Congressional Democrats are Holding Government funding including funding for our troops and National Security priority hostage. Due to this obstruction, the government to shut down. You can leave a comment for the whitehouse. Gov. We look forward to taking your calls as in the government reopens. Coming on 7 45 a. M. We are taking your calls all morning long. In 15 minutes, we will be joined by a Senior Correspondent with government executive to talk about the impact of the shut down on federal employees and talk about whats open and whatnot. In the meantime, your calls. Diane is in kansas, a republican. Caller mcconnell should set a date certain, the end of this the governmenter is funded with the current cr that is already written, or he goes to the nuclear option. People who are listening to the show, call your congressman. Their local offices arent shut down. Make your voices heard. When we get to a comprehensive should allow, we the daca people to stay in the country, give them legal status. On complete overhaul of our immigration system. I happen to agree with the president as far as a meritbased system. Onlyso need to look at not our borders, but get this mess straightened up with people flying in here or getting into the country by means other than walking across the border. Just get it done. Host before you go, in terms of the nuclear option, if that were to happen, would you be concerned about what happens if democrats regain control the senate in the future . Caller absolutely not. I have no concerns with that. The budget is too important to keep playing around with it. Theyhe chips fall where may. Republicans are in charge or whoever has the majority, thats the way the people have voted. They voted for these people. Go for it. Thats the way i see it. Host go ahead. Caller good morning. How are you today . I have three points. Why dont our leaders take a couple of days and jet set around to some military bases and explain why its ok for them to get paid . Explain how this deadlock is good for the country. Nowhere did trump ever say that mexico was going to be shelling out money for this wall. He said they would pay for it. I think he probably meant in the way of them getting people back. That was his way of making them pay for it. Number three, this is trumpetical, why didnt say i want money for a wall, when i was like his money to build some doc out facilities for people that are coming here illegally. You know what im talking about when i say that. Host i think i do know it youre talking about and we will move on. We are on the line for democrats in tennessee. Caller i want to speak about the difference between the republican government and the democrats. We watched republicans for six years do nothing and state they would do nothing. We couldve done a lot of things when obama was in office. The democrats are playing the same hand. Whatever they want, they will twist the story to make it anyway. These things should have been done before we passed the tax cut which added to the debt. I think they shouldve done it before that. Trump knew he wasnt going to pay for that that mexico was going to pay that wall. They need to let these children in. They go to work every day. They buy things every day. Theyve been paying for years. They do all the services. Who hires these people . The people at the top end. I think its appalling that they use this as a race issue. We are all americans. Someone has to step up and do the right thing. One thing we could not handle right now, what if we did have a serious terrorist attack . What would we do. We are distracted by foolishness. We need to keep our eye on what the important to us. , ite Small Division tactics said. We did have a serious enemy attacked us, what would we do. Host go ahead. Caller i want to ask all americans, who cares whose fault it is . The last time youve seen a democrat or even a republican fight as hard as the democrats are fighting for daca, these arent kids. We all know they are in their 20s and 30s. Daca is illegal. Lets get that straight. This tax cut thing is a good thing. Its already paid for. Nobody said anything when obama was tacking on 15 trillion in debt. Thats all ive got to say. Times,n the washington one headline. Dreamers wield political power without casting a vote. Steve is the reporter on the story. In the oped pages of the New York Times, this headline. A tactical retreat could help focus on economic issues. He said the culture war over immigration replaced the racial debate that dominated 2016. The evidence is pretty clear that a racialized debate helps trump. Its the debate it makes it harder for democrats to retake the senate and house. You did read that column in the year times. Dorothy is in arkansas. Go ahead. Caller i am blaming this on trump. If he did what he was supposed to do, there would not be a shutdown. I am asking everybody get together and open the Government Back up. Its important the government functions and its important that they talk to each other and make a settlement. This is not a democratic shutdown. This is a republican shutdown. They run all three branches of government. They are in charge. Host chuck is an colorado, a democrat. Good morning. Caller thank you for taking my call. I just wanted to bring attention to the fact that ever since the nine mostat dangerous words in the english language were im from the government and im here to help, the government has a severe hatred for government. They want to privatize it. They want to privatize so security. They want to privatize the v. A. They want to privatize things taxpayers have already paid for. They want to cash in on that. They want wall street to cash in on it. Once getrquist government so small it can be drowned in a bathtub. They have an agreement that is not raising taxes. You cant run a government without taxes. The just want to starve beast so to speak and they are doing it right now. ,hey are trying to keep undermine the budget essentially by running these consecutive series of continuing resolutions. Its just costing the american taxpayer. From theg distraction russians. Citizens united has allowed dark money into our elections. Receivinggot the nra dark money from the russians. What in the hell is going on in this country . From we also want to hear former federal employees. 202 7488003. We want to hear how you are being impacted. Go ahead. Caller thanks for taking my call. I am a federal employee. I am also a democrat. I think there are a lot of people in this country who dont understand that it takes 60 votes. They believe that the republican majority could end this stalemate. Democrats arehe playing the wrong hand. They dont have the manpower to do that. Its a mistake to put all your cards on immigration. To 2013. Back i was there. I realized early on in pennsylvania after a week, you are unemployed. You go to the unemployment office. I dont know how other states work when it comes to collecting unemployment. If every federal employee walks into a state office today and start collecting unemployment from the state, thats going to bankrupt the states. The governors are going to go crazy. We are all working, we are entitled to unemployment. When you shut someone out from work, they are entitled to collect unemployment. Thanks for taking my call. Host right now, our crew is out there. We noticed the u. S. Park service about the funding lapse and how it affects the National Mall. Those are some of the signs that visitors to the National Mall will see today. We are talking more about the impact of the shutdown and what people will see or wont see. We are talking to the Senior Correspondents o. As long as the Government Shutdown continues, spacex wont be able to test fire the new falcon heavy rocket. Him they need permission from the air force to do that test. Conductnot help spacex the firing. Flight was targeted for the end of january. Stick around and give us a call if you are a federal employee especially. We want to hear from you as we talk about the impact of the shutdown. Rich is in ohio on the line for republicans. Caller really great comments. It seems like there are two big events going on right now, the super bowl and dealing with north korea. In the super bowl, there are good teams that did everything right but lost. Other teams screwed himself up and lost. We are competing with other countries and we cant afford to screw ourselves up and become that. Some people dont want to do things constructively, but they are looking ways to boobytrap the country. We have to concentrate on what good and put it together like we did before. Host rich was our last caller in this segment. Up next, we will talk about the impact of the Government Shutdown on employees. We will be right back. With landmark cases returning next month for season two, cspans senior history producer mark farkas shared background on the upcoming series. By popular demand its returning. Its a coproduction with us and the National Constitution center. As i listen to the callers this morning, they are talking about race, the powers of congress, the constitution and immigration. Our weve got an season to 12 landmark Supreme Court cases that really take you through the history of the country and deal with these cases that really, really have something to do it today. Along with the National Constitution center, we had a very long set of cases and what we wanted to do was to take cases that had a Human Interest story to them. In the end, these cases affect human beings across the country. The cases came down to did they have an impact in their time, change the course or the country in their time and how relevant are they today . Are relevant today. Mcculloch versus maryland is the power of congress to write laws that can overrule the states. Case in 1886 where Anthony Kennedy had mentioned it many times on the Supreme Court commence about immigration. We will have two very good guests onset in washington and weve got a video journalist producer who will go around the country to the places that helped tell the story for each one of those cases. Well go to San Francisco for yick wo. Rights cases, that was a case that overturned in 1875 law and made it unconstitutional after the Supreme Court ruled against that, jim crow laws went into effect in this country. Frederick douglas makes an amazing speech a week afterward so we will take you to the place where Frederick Douglass makes that speech. Its a little bit of on the set and we want your phone calls and tweets and interact with the audience but really talk about how the shows are relevant today. Season twoto watch of landmark cases beginning february 26 at 9 00 p. M. Eastern live on cspan www. Cspan. Org, or listen with the free cspan radio app. To help you better understand each case, we have a companion tony morrow. By landmark cases volume two, the book costs eight dollars 95 cents plus shipping and handling. To get your copy, go to www. Cspan. Org. landmark cases. Washington journal continues. Host eric katz is a Senior Correspondent for Senior Executive and will look us through the impact of the ongoing shutdown. Technically, this is a partial shutdown, explain why. The government is shutdown and appropriations did not last of there is no funding for government. But they have carved out certain exemptions and exceptions for employees that continue to work. Law andbased on an old a memo from the Carter Administration lays out who can work and who cant. Funds come from annualother than appropriations. If they are fee funded, they can work. Host whats an example . Example, some operations of customs officers are funded by fees because you pay a fee every time you fly on an airplane. To paying that persons, certain persons salaries or checking passports. Those employees, you pay a fee to get your passport renewed and that helps pay the salary of the employees who process those. There are also exceptions for employees who work to protect life or property, basically how they call it. Anyone working National Security, defense department, homeland security, Justice Department are also working protecting property the government owns. Its part of that exception. Host how many federal employees are furloughed today . Guest the administration is taking a new approach to this. Agencyng to the guidelines on who would be furloughed, there was about 850,000 or so. Found fundss have to stay open longer like the epa , the energy department, they are staying open at least for the first few days of the shut down based on leftover funds not are putting toward implementing the shut down immediately. Host do some agencies create a Rainy Day Fund . Guest sort of but its breakup located. But its pretty located. Agencies of not done before to this extent. Toldbama administration the agencies to use their on obligated funds as they could but we are seeing more maneuvering between accounts and things like that to stay open. When Congress Appropriates funds, sometimes the those dont have a time limit. If there is left over balances there, they can take that and use it to stay open. The epa and some of the other agencies i mentioned have decided they have enough to do that for a few days or weeks. Becamehe National Parks a symbol of the shut down back in 2013, the signs in front of the world war ii memorial and on the National Mall. We are not seeing as much of that this time. Is there a strategic reason to make that happen . Guest the white house has said the Obama Administration tried to weaponize the shutdown and make it so it was in as impactful as possible for political purposes. Obama Administration Official to my that was the case but thats what they are saying. They are trying to do the opposite of that and make it so agencies are staying open as make theossible to impact of small as possible. The National Park service is still furloughing over 80 of the workforce. Host they are putting their signs on the National Mall. Some there are still signs but when i was reading it, it said you can still do your camping overnight but we might not have the personnel we usually do, some of the facilities might be close like that to rooms because they dont have the people there to service them. They are trying to keep the open air memorials and monuments and parks open as much as they can and closing off certain parts that it would not be safe to go on with someone there with someone not there to help you. Host a republican has a tweet from yesterday you can see he put together a composite richer during the 2013 shutdown, what it looks like near the Lincoln Memorial from the world war ii memorial and the same shot from the current shutdown. We are taking your calls this morning as we talked to eric katz, the Senior Correspondent from government executive. We want to hear from you and hear your questions about this shutdown. As folks are calling in, will federal employees get back pay for however long this lasts . Guest most likely, most of them automatically will, roughly 60 of the federal workforce will still be working throughout the day even though the government will shutdown and all military personnel are still on active duty and working. They are not getting their paycheck that they would normally get but they are guaranteed to begetting backpay wants the government reopens. The rest of the workforce who , they aresent home not guaranteed to get back pay but historically in 2013 and in the 90s during the clinton , congress voted retroactively to grant federal employees back pay. There are already bills in the congress to do that again. Host we promise to keep you updated about President Trump tweets this morning your phone calls with eric katz of government executive, jim is up first from wake forest, north carolina, good morning. Ask,r i just want to congress can still override the president s veto. Everybody is calling each other names and blaming them, they can just override the veto and make it law. Im looking at how the congresspeople will still be getting paid, why cant they do that for the military and why not stop their own pay . Military notd the getting their paychecks like will see if that gets impacted but they are guaranteed back pay. Members of congress will be getting paid. Thats the way the law works. Host why is that . Guest thats just the way it works. Working through the shutdown. Many lawmakers have already come out to say as long as there is a shutdown, im not going to take my salary, i will donated to charity or Something Like that. We saw that a lot in 2013 as well. About the question president the congress overriding the president ial veto. We get to that stage, we can cross that bridge. We willll happen see what happens on an effective vote at noon about the continuing resolution and senate is expected in at 10 00 and then a boat is expected. The house is in at noon today as well. There will be plenty of action on capitol hill and we will keep you updated on all of this. We go to fredericksburg, pennsylvania, a federal worker, good morning. Caller good morning. My concern is for the military. Im a retired air Traffic Controller and was not furloughed but i was essential personnel. Father wasitary, my and soan of world war ii was my fatherinlaw and my grandfather fought in world war ii and im a veteran of the via numb. My son is in the garden. This fight is for the citizens of the United States and the argument is not for the citizens of the United States. They are on a legal status. Thank you. Host tillman has a question on twitter do you have a number . We see around 60 of the workforce still working throughout shutdown, 40 furloughed. Thats the number of employees working but as far as services, it might be a different breakdown. The workforce is tilted disproportionately toward Veterans Affairs and providing health care for veterans and the defense department, homeland arerity and those agencies way more functioning that some of the other agencies. Host you said some agencies have found money to function, how long can they last . We will see after a week, more agencies going to the normal shutdown procedures if we make it that long. The epa said they have about a week. We will see how long they can stretch out those dollars. Host are federal workers allowed to work from home during the shutdown . Guest no, if they are furloughed, they are legally required to not work. Otherwise, they would be violating unpaid volunteer laws that apply to the federal workforce. If you are furloughed, you are to look at your government device or check your email and not allowed to answer calls from coworkers or anything like that. You have to be sitting there, not working. Host how is that working out for stephen in missouri. . Worker, 37 years, my experience and i have been through many shutdowns, we always got back pay. Im not saying we will get that now. I have no idea. It does harm are the newer type federal employees. They get very apprehensive. They are young and starting families. The older guys, the older ladies , we have been through it and we try to calm them down. I want to make another point about not working. The gentleman makes a very good point. We were told you will not work at home. Needless to say, many others did. A two orame back after three week shutdown, it was utter chaos to be able to serve the public and get caught up. The gentleman makes an excellent point. We were told specifically that you will not work from home. Needless to say, some of us did, thank you. He raises a good point about coming back from a shutdown, there has been studies as to how much money has been wasted during this time and how work piles up. Arraye this across a wide of government offices that get backlog because of the way the work had to stop during a shutdown. Federal employees get worried retirementssing new , that all stops. Backlog piles up during a shutdown. He said that employees were trying to do some work from home. They are not supposed to during a shutdown. For the most part, a lot of that stuff is getting backlog. Mentioned retirement benefits. To current federal retirees see any impact by the shutdown . Guest i believe they will still get their benefits. There is a carve out in shutdown procedures where earned benefits still get paid out like Social Security. They should be ok. Red bluff,t is in california, a republican. Go ahead. Caller my daughter is in the military. Shes not getting paid. That is ridiculous. This has to do with the democrats. Number two, you have allowed a your phone and call and ifnt trump a nazi somebody were to call obama Something Like that, you would have every democrat on the phone calling for you to be fired. I will get a hold of cspan and tell them that i want all the and havens to call in you fired. That is ridiculous to allow that. That is an american. Thank you, goodbye. Brenda is in manchester, washington, federal employee and also a democrat, go ahead. I wanted tohere, talk more about the cr. Shutdowns arethat never good. They should not happen and i feel bad for everybody affected. S not about mike has been its not about my husbands current position but he to run the Business Office for the Pacific Carrier fleet. They were the only ones who can authorize any expenditures toward the carriers for the big huge projects. This is a nightmare. Its really hard on them to constantly continue to work on these continuing resolutions. I dont want to say that i approve of the shutdown my husband certainly does not. Not said it, thats why the republican senators were voting against the cr because they are tired of them. Thats what needs to get worked out in washington. Give them a budget. , i honestly think the republicans wanted the shutdown. And repealingorm aca, they are working with the senate to see what they can pass. You cannot pass the reconciliation on a budget. They knew this would not pass. Up because they wanted to see if the democrats would hold their ground or shut down the government. Trump is not getting involved is a big deal maker. I would challenge who really wanted the shutdown. I challenge anybody to show me what democrat was ever a proponent of a shutdown. They have made remarks in the but only republicans have been against government. Host you mentioned that President Trumps involvement, here is a tweet from him just now we will keep watching thattwas it the president s twitter page. Can you walk us through how the continuing resolution impacts the employees question mark guest . Guest a lot of the attention has focused on the immigration side of things. The democrats i have spoken with on the hill have said the real reason they are ok with this is they want a full year appropriation budget and dont want to keep doing the cr. It hurts their ability to plan longterm, to start new projects, to cancel old projects that are not working anymore. Host explain that. Guest the way the appropriations process works is when there is a new full year appropriation, lawmakers go through line by line at every agency and say you have this amount of money to do these things. They spell out exactly what projects they can work on and sometimes what they cant. In a cr, none of that happens. It just says keep doing what youre doing at the same level. There is no specificity and there is no new planning or anything along those lines. Kansas, anrado, independent, go ahead. Go ahead. About hi, i dont care daca and the wall. I want to know what else is in the bill. Where will the money go and how much money is going to be spent . Why cant we talk about that . Host which bill are you referring to . They are trying to pass to bring the Government Back. Host walk us through the threeweek continuing resolution. Guest it would go toward everything. This is what funds the government across the entire scope of what government does. The latest proposal would last three weeks. It would keep spending at what agencies were doing in 2017. It would keep those levels consistent for the next few weeks. It would carry us forward into and then we would have to go through it all again. Louisiana, line for republicans, go ahead. Observation, i was 28 Years Air Force and spent nine years as a federal Civil Service employee. I have a little knowledge of whats going on. That the United States active duty military must report for duty but they will not get their paycheck. Eventually, i understand, they will get their paycheck. The federal Civil Service employee be treated the same way . They are being furloughed which means they dont come to work but they will eventually get their same paycheck. That vacation when i was working. I cannot understand why if something is good for the united but notilitary to work get paid while they are working but eventually get paid, why cant the same thing apply . The guestmment by about its about the budget, its not about the budget. If it was about the budget, it would not have the dream act stuff in this legislation. I cannot buy that argument. Guest a couple of thoughts on that the democrats tried to put forward after the Government Shutdown a bill to ensure the military personnel get paid on time on a normal schedule. Congress did that in 2013 when the Government Shutdown 20 sure that no paychecks were delayed for military. Mitch mcconnell blocked that measure. I think they dont want to make this dreck out longer by taking away the pain of a shutdown. Keep trying to ensure there are no delayed paychecks for the military. As far as the Civil Service, they also are guaranteed back pay if they are working. They have toot, wait and see what happens. Some have called it a paid vacation since they usually get back pay. Federal employees would take issue with that because they have uncertainty and bills to pay and they dont want to wait a couple of weeks until they get paid. Can you talk about what the federal employee unions are doing right now and what they are asking for . Guest they obviously want to end the shutdown. This is a breadandbutter issue for what they stand for. Federal employees to essential work, not just ones working today are sometimes called essential employees. They are saying the should not be allowed to happen. Against thebying shutdown and there were number one issue is insuring back pay like we were discussing. They are also trying to educate thepublic that these are kinds of services that are not happening when the Government Shutdown. You might not notice it on day one but people are feeling the pain and its not just National Parks. Host tell us about the United States postal service. Here is a tweet guest agencies that are , they receive no appropriations from congress. They are funded through selling stamps and other mail services. They stay open in a shutdown and have money to operate. They dont rely on congress to give them their funding. They continue to deliver. Federalbecca is a employee in goshen, indiana, good morning. Caller yes, i am a disabled that. I was of that. Vet. 2013 shutdown and as a disabled vet i am heartbroken looking at the civilian side through the 2013 shutdown, i never saw that pay. , istatus today over 20 years requested to go on leave because i see this on a daily basis. I am a republican and proud of it and i work with people in a large city who i know are publicly very much the other way. I have to go in now and ask for my pay, and asked her five days, because it was suddenly andended for me personally i wont go into the details. I have that little added thing that i will have to go through to get my pay. What i have seen is the unions are doing nothing. That might be in my particular area but they basically sit in liberal circles, i dont want to get into the politics, but i am affected daily by this. At this point, i am forced to sit under the same people that did it last week knowing that i will now have to have more days of my pay too big for. Im a disabled veteran on the heartbroken for my country and the people on active duty who are forced to go through all of this. Host thanks for sharing your story. Guest im not sure about her but theparticular interesting point she mentioned is that federal employees who are furloughed are not allowed to take leave in order to continue to get paid. Anyone who has their regular annual vacation or sick leave, that is canceled and you are in furlough and not paid. Host any estimates as to how much the shutdown is costing per day . Guest i have seen some that put it as much as a couple of billion dollars a day. From the estimates that came out after the last shutdown, 20 or 30 billion impact on the economy. That was the author that was the 2013 shutdown. It had a substantial impact and maybe slowed the decimated the slowing economy affected that. Host alexandria, virginia, john is a democrat, good morning. Caller i thought the buck stopped with the president but he is apparently not involved in all in this entire thing. I would encourage every single last person who gets their check from a Trump Company to go on strike right now until the government opens backup. Thank you. Host any thoughts on that . As far as President Trump getting involved, there have actually been several republicans in the senate and in congress who have said that they want to negotiate in congress, passed something without the white house getting involved. They have sort of upended previous negotiations and change some of their positions around or thats what the lawmakers feel. And want to hammer this out have President Trump stay out of it for now. Know whenwant to the pandacam when the panda cam will reopen. They keep a 24 7 camera on the panda which is the pride of that washington zoo. Onto to theo national zoo website and watch that. The smithsonian museums stayed open the weekend and today as well but eventually they will be closed to the public. Host so they were able to find three more days of funding question mark guest yes, the smithsonian is a weird, Publicprivate Partnership because they receive a lot of fundraising from the private sector. They have stayed open for the initial weekend. In florida, line for republicans, good morning. Caller good morning. Host go ahead. Sayer i would just like to that i am a republican. I respect President Trump. I want him to stand his ground. And as far as those democrats, they planned this to shut him down on his first year because all of them women, all of them ugly women that was up there citizens, but we, as the Senior Citizens of florida are not worried about everything being closed up because we will get our money. President trump, stand your ground. Go down there and fire half of the democrats and all of them republicans that are not going to vote. We dont care about daca. Host anything you want to pick up from that . I think she was referencing the womens march that happened over the weekend here in d. C. And throughout the country. This was times to be on the oneyear anniversary of President Trumps inauguration but thats how host it played out. Host michigan, independent, good morning. Caller thank you, washington journal. I appreciate the coverage all day saturday. Bill did a fabulous job in between episodes of the senate and the house. Im calling directly to speak to mr. Katz. He says its always been like that regarding the senators and the congresspeople getting their pay. You are talking to a 70yearold. A very young at heart 70yearold. I believe it was carter. They used to get paid prior. I think it was carter that put so that theylation did not get paid either when there was a shutdown. He was worried about the congresspeople picking up extra the payola under the table. It was in the law that they that theypaid only so would get paid up money from companies to do the companies bidding. Mr. Katz, check your facts. Thats also to that woman on the open phones. That answers her question. I think it was done by president carter. Thats all i have to say. Host anything you want to add . Guest the shutdowns were happening commonly in the carter era back in the late 70s. Motivated the current structure of the shutdown. Memo from the department of justice that came 1979 that said federal agencies can continue eight cant continue to operate like normal. Previously, agencies just sort of kept going. I think that led to more shutdowns and made it hard to exley pass budgets. That made it hard to pass budgets and that led to a change. Host virginia, democrat good morning. Go ahead. Caller what i want to say is thee is no point in playing blame game. We are past that but we need a compromise to fix it. The cruelest thing in all of this is that any veterans or anybody else having a disability hearing or something scheduled, all of that a shutdown and it adds to the backlog. This just a bigger pile for everybody to dig through, thank you. Host eldon has a question on twitter that depends on which state they are in. I think most states would allow that. It happened during 2013. Employee isughed given back pay, they were required by the state to repay them Employment Benefits they received because they ended up being paid but were not entitled to those benefits. Check with your state. You might qualify for that but you might have to pay it back if congress decides to give you back pay which has always historically happened and this white house has endorsed. James is in grundy, virginia, independent, good morning. Caller thank you for taking my call. They dont have the votes for the daca thing so they took it back. Isdaca, what they need to do the young ones that were brought do anythinghey can they want except for voting. There andstay out they will be good. Then get limit terms for congressman. The first congressman voted in did not stay for 40 years and come out with millions of dollars. They do not even get paid. I appreciate it. Host our line for federal employees, jackson is in wisconsin, good morning. Caller good morning. Was a the late 90s, i military officer. Hello . Host we are listening. When i retired, i was given choices if i could work for the federal government or uasi entity of the government. In 2013, they were going to shut faireut i was for quai where we only use the government program. Because itsaid not controlled by congress. We make our own money. We pay our own wages and pensions. Those are choices for military that once they retire, make sure they written that make the right choice. Do you want to work for the government where you dont get paid or work for a quai fair entity . With the National Parks being closed down, i can see what president obama did it because there is garbage that has to be cleaned up in the letter. L itter. With mr. Trump, hes leaving it open so when the government reopens, he has to clean up everyones mass. Thank you for taking my call. The caller raises a good point about keeping some of the parks open or somewhat open during the shutdown. We have talked to a lot of experts who are advocates for the National Parks and we have talked to the former National Park service director. They raise a lot of concerns with the administration as to who will clean up some of the garbage. Who will make sure all of the trails are safe and responsive to emergencies when people are there and things along those lines. About howsome doubts that is going to operate. The caller raises the point of military put personnel leaving service and choosing the right job. That is a good reminder, i think about 30 of the civilian workforce are veterans. They are feeling a big brunt of this shutdown. Was a story yesterday that some Disaster Recovery efforts will not happen under the shutdown. Which ones, where . Recovery to recovery, some of the longterm stuff that the Emergency Management Administration Agency does is not happening during a shutdown. The more immediate, lets get and get the debris out of the way and that sort of stuff is still happening. Thats the protection of life thatne of the exceptions congress and the Justice Department allow for. Some of the longerterm preparation stuff and longterm recovery is not happening. Its important to remember that if there is a new emergency that happens like in 2013, fema brought back more employees because he knew Tropical Storm was about to hit so they recalled furloughed employees to help prepare for that. That is something that is still in the cards. Host ron, georgia, republican, good morning. Caller i would like to quote an article by john hudson on caring of illegals and the cost 135 billion per year. State and federal spending on Illegal Immigrants jumped over 6 last year setting a new record at more than 135 ilion dollars annually. Thats according to a study by the federation for American Immigration reform. By 35osts have jumped billion since 2010. Tax paybacks by undocumented workers reached 19 billion last year. Costmakes the net taxpayer of caring for illegals at about 116 billion per year. The expense for most of those costs are 46 billion for education for their children, 23 billion for Law Enforcement for their criminal behavior, 9 billion in welfare, 29 billion , and estimatedts 99 of immigrants who enter the country illegally use Emergency Medical Services at some point according to that report. Some undocumented immigrants also receive medicaid benefits despite not being eligible to enroll. Host talking about a lot of numbers they are. There have been some reports about how improper payments the government makes, thats been an ongoing problem for years and years. The crux of where this , aboutement is happening individualscumented who came to this country when they were children brought here and they havets legal status currently but its expiring soon because President Trump ended a program that president obama initiated. They are trying to negotiate what to do with how to handle that situation. ThenPresident Trump talks about adding other immigration measures and Border Security type of steps. Thatrt of a larger deal would allow those 700,000 individuals to stay here legally. Host federal worker in manassas, virginia i,an are you . T home today question ma guest caller my wife is a fedel worker and im asking for her. Is, my wifes coworkers are texting back and forth and asking if the vote goes on at noon, if they can go back to work this afternoon. When officially does the government come back open . I thought the government opens whether they officially approved the appropriations measure. Guest the senate is supposed to vote at noon and the lycos of the house and in the white house for a signature. Would be even if they pass something this afternoon, omb, office of management and budget, would instruct employees to come back tuesday morning. Its possible we could see a faster turnaround but it depends on how quickly congress can act. Its worth noting that all federal employees just about should be in the office today. They had to go in this morning even if they are furloughed, to implement whats called an orderly shutdown. They have to secure their desk and make sure any files that are out are put away, pass on information to employees that might need it. After three or four hours, they will go home and wait to see what happens. Host springfield, virginia, ron, independent, go ahead. Caller its important to make it Crystal Clear to the taxpayers in the country that the federal employees always, always, always get paid. They never lose a dime. We should never use the word unpaid in a shutdown. Say woe is the federal employee but they are getting additional Vacation Time through this process. People who go to work every day and understand the concept of furloughs and sacrifice, to import they understand federal employees always get paid. They always have and they always will. The only sacrifice is delayed compensation. Maybe have people call in over the country who have more federal employees and ask them how they feel that they can take time off but their pay would be delayed. Its important to make that point. Guest the federal employees i have talked to come i dont think any of them would take that deal. Its fair to say they have always been paid back. Goingre still risking od wherea pay peri their paycheck would come in normally and they would not get it. They have bills to pay and groceries to buy. These things dont wait for the backpay to kick in. Its something that many employees struggle with. Employees are making tons of money so some of them are counting on each paycheck. Often to be a paid vacation sometimes but thats not until much later. Ellicott city, maryland, a democrat, last call in this segment, go ahead. Caller you listen to some of the callers, im confused why it seems like many republicans have a disdain for Public Service. It kind of started with reagan a little bit but they want to go to work and we know people who work for the federal government. Im sure there are some places where there is waste but largely come you get dedicated folks who largely dont make a lot of money, who work for the federal and if for some reason, not everybody, but most of us dont show respect. They get paid back but imagine going a couple of weeks without a paycheck, most of us would struggle. Federal employees fault that congress cannot work this thing out. In 2013, donald trump said barack obama is the president , its his responsibility to pull everyone together and work out a deal. Our president today come all he does is tweet and divide folks instead of trying to bring them together. Who wants to negotiate with the president when hes constantly attacking people not only the Democratic Party but the Republican Party and everybody else. I think we all need to have more respect beyond the military with our park rangers, Public Servants throughout the federal government and stop eating such haters. And stop being such haters. Guest that certainly a sentiment that has been a large portion of the federal workforce that republicans in office have sort of disparaged them and have an animosity toward Civil Service. Republicans want to say the government is running more efficiently and effectively. This white house, this president came into office pretty quickly througha proposition executive order to reduce the size of the federal workforce. Butting heads in the shutdown is apple finally that. Host eric katz is a senior government a Senior Correspondent with government executive, think if your time this morning. Phones onnow to open this third day of the Government Shutdown. We want to hear your thoughts on the shutdown. You can start calling in now. This is a live shot of the National Mall on this shutdown monday. We will be right back. Cspan, where history unfolds daily. In 1979, cspan was created as a Public Service by americas Cable Television companies and is brought to you today by your cable or satellite provider. This week on the communicators, we take you to the consumer electronic show them las vegas to talk with Industry Leaders. Watch the communicators tonight at 8 00 eastern on cspan two. Sent history tv on on cspan3. This week, tonight at 8 00 p. M. Eastern, the american historical Associations Annual conference in washington, d. C. Featuring a panel on Public Policy centers. Tuesday night at 8 00 p. M. 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Mall onhe scene on the the shot of the front page of the Financial Times this morning. It is a sign outside the library of congress. We will show you scenes from around the capital and on the National Mall this morning as we get your thoughts. In pennsylvania, a republican is up first. Caller thank you for taking my call. I just want to say to those for cspan. I think you guys are being fair and impartial. Of thel with all sides issue so thank you for that. Two quick comments and then i have a question. Cspan like to see if whatever consider having someone from nis on the show so we can get actual facts on daca and see what they say. That would be interesting. The second thing is about trump and his tweets. I think he is entertaining and a little crazy sometimes but its basically his only way to fight back and respond to a lot of things out there every day. My two those are comments. A quick question is there currently a bill on the floor right now for the 2018 budget or are we just looking at this threeweek cr . Host currently, there is an effort underway for a vote to move forward on the threeweekcr which is expected to happen in the senate at noon. Schedules could change today but thats what we are thinking about now. That would be to keep the federal government open, to give more time for negotiations on the longerterm spending bill for the rest of the financial year. Right now, we are looking at possibly a vote on the threeweek continuing resolution. Happeningns are behind the scene on the Bipartisan Group of senators, about 20 of them, who are working to come up with some solution to the immigration impact which is hanging over the spending debate. Thats what we are looking at right now. You can watch it all as it happens here on cspan throughout the day. The senate will be in it 10 00 in the house will be in a noon today. Micas and columbia heights, independent, go ahead. I will just get to the core of it. What i am proposing or trying to of having, instead them all separated as different groups or whatever for the you say theissues, people who are the children of the immigrants and stuff, why not just say they are human beings so maybe they should just will bethat they citizens now, they are not in a special class, you are a u. S. Citizen, a comprehensive approach is what im trying to say. I dont fully understand all the issues of the immigration but what do you think of that . Host we want to know what you think about that. We have special lines for federal employees. Line foris on that federal employees in rhode island. Caller its my husband whos in the military. Say the shutdown happened before it really shutdown. We were on a transfer in rhode island from washington state. A promise to be paid last week and we did not get paid. Aw im sitting here as military, my husbands military and i am by myself in a home where i cannot put them oil in it because there is no money. As wasd not pay us promised before we left. They said we be paid last week and we have not been paid at all. Host what is your plan if this goes on for more days . Caller i have no plan. There is nothing i can do. I used my savings to come across country. We are broke. Host as you are watching this, what do you want from congress . Caller they need to come up with some sort of plan. We are not the first ones who they just stopped paying us five days ago. Democrs and republicans, they sent to the other house. This until later on. If they get that for one house, no more than five working days to vote on the other house. Of the ld stop a lot crps. Believe that. Host another bill in maryland, go ahead. , caller yeah. Dont understand is across both sides of the news channels, they all have been talking about that the americans are pretty much okay with daca, as it dont get but understanding is theyre trying to throw 3. Something into it, which aint right. But, you know, were a country, we need to be lawful, too. Think it is another move going all crats and year long, every time president do something o with a ey attack him bunch of bs. If people cant see that, you blinders, all i got to say. Host headlines americans are waking up to. Out of lake s charles, louisiana. Budget battle is the headline, shutdown continues into work week as senate talks drag on. Those senate talks, here is front page of politico today. On plan toote monday reopen the government, democratic leader Chuck Schumer yet. There is no deal that is on potential threeweek resolution. Steve is in edgewater, maryland, federal employee, good morning. Caller morning. To say that itke the is moreover party will have oneparty in or have bipartisan rule the house and senate. Daca, i think it was the for daca either side. Ost steve, what do you think about the president s tweet, his proposal yesterday to perhaps do legislative filibuster in the senate . Of er i think that is part the same attempt to drive simple both houses and the hutdown is part of a plan to achieve that. Host john is in pryer, oklahoma, an independent. Good morning. Good morning. What id like to talk about is all, to the daca employees, federal life just simply isnt fair. And and, you know, you got here as concerned, you got here illegally. Maybe it wasnt your fault, but you are here illegally. You cant jump a line to suit yourself. If you feel your circumstance is no one else gets to jump the line here in the u. S. , say, you should get in line like everybody else. O the federal workers who are ringing their hands over not being paid, i can only say, like comeest of us, emergencies up in life and you need to put money back because no one is to help you unless you help yourself. I support the Government Shutdown until they sort this out. Democrats are simply holding the hostage to suit a few instead of serving all of in including men and women military that, is my comment. Host john, on the immigration like we said yesterday, a lot of focus on the work by a as rtisan group of senators the New York Times put it on the front page, offering reason that a ious optimism deal could be reached soon on that issue. Gesture to lawmakers seeks assurances the senate will address the fate of hundreds of young undocumented immigrants, Mitch Mcconnell, ajority leader, said yesterday that he intended to move ahead with immigration legislation ext month if the issue had not been resolved by then. Here is Mitch Mcconnell on the night, the senate last talking about that issue. Comes cconnell when it to an end, the serious that isan negotiations have been going on for months resolve our unfinished spending, military Disaster Relief, health care, Border Security, will continue. Intention to y resolve the issues as quickly as possible so we can move on to is importants that to our country. However, should these issues not be resolved by the time the us expires before 2018, assuming that the government remains would be my intention to proceed to legislation that daca, Border Security and related issues. Also my intention to take up legislation regarding ncreased defense spending, Disaster Relief and other matters. T today. Tdown should stop well soon have a vote that will exactly that. Lets step back from the brink, lets stop victimizing the people and get back to on their behalf. Host on twitter, as were having this conversation, larry writes in, anybody that trusts republicans to make a deal after stealing the supreme out of their minds. Were getting your comments this by facebook. Itter, you can, of course, call us, democrats, its 2027488000. Republicans, 2027488001. Independents, 2027488002. Special line for federal 2027488003. George, federal employee in connecticut. George, good morning. Caller good morning, retired been l employee, had immigration officer at one point. Budget battle, this is immigration battle. Congress failed to agree on democrats not of agreeing with the appropriations into and daca was thrown this mix. The majority of Congress Agrees the continuing resolution, so when senator schumer put this it is not a ssue, budget issue at this juncture, battle. N immigration the democrats are the party in favor of Government Spending and any social programs and they have a vested interest in having people become u. S. Citizens because they can vote democrat order to receive benefits. So very few people are saying but i believe that is the reality of the situation. Hula, democrat, go ahead. Caller yes, i was wondering if shutdown will affect my ssi heck because i get paid once a month and with the federal should live like and social n ssi security because we want to get paid once a month and we have to check to check and host bula, on that front, good shouldnt be impacted, Social Security and other impactednt benefits not by this shutdown. Caller caller host okay. To brenda in youngstown, ohio, a republican. Go ahead. Caller hi. Hi, good morning. For you. Ve a question ive been trying to follow the news. Is there a difference between daca and the dreamers, between like the democrats, republicans . You hear numbers anywhere from 800,000 and 2 million, are they two different groups, one group . Host brenda, the dreamers, the the deferred in action for childhood arrival program, the people registered program, that number is 800,000. 700,000 and the dream act is something you to probably heard about, find a path to citizenship for many of those dreamers, but it an expanded group, as well, family members of those folks that, is where you get those couple Million People who would be impacted by that act. Does that help explain it for you . Aller yes, it is just kind of confusing, everything, i like to saying. T everybody is i listen to cnn, they are throwing out this number, fox is throwing out this number. Like watching you guys, but then it is like im hearing a number, i was confused, thank you very much. Columbia, all, luke, maryland, go ahead. Caller yeah, good morning. Im just trying to understand hether this is fake news or mccaskill voted to fund the military during the shutdown and Mitch Mcconnell objected to it and if that is rue, why would he do Something Like that to stop the military from being funded . Thank you. That is what eric katz, our reporter who was just on, just talked about and xplained that Mitch Mcconnell wanted it done as part of a larger package, but if we can a reporter back on the phone to explain that a little more, i maybe find a story to run through it for you. Appreciate the homework. Ang mateo, california. Good morning. Caller good morning. Democrat, i wish every democrat that goes to the poll, it, nt agree with absolutely not. It is an immigration issue. What they wantof to do, shame of them. Who thank nt, you. Host on the immigration issue, as we f focus yesterday, said on that group of moderates withring to try to come up a proposal, being led by senator collins, republican of maine, hosting 20 fellow moderates in her office afternoon. Among the participants with collins, number of democrats, seeking reelection in states President Trump won in 2016. Voted friday against sparking the shutdown in the first place. Able to catch up with senator collins and moderates of and a republican, here is what they had to say yesterday. I think it is important to recognize the sooner we can come open up the to government to reopen the government, the better it is for republicans, the better it is for democrats, the better it is country. We recognize 20 plus bipartisan legislators, we need o be working with our respective Leadership Teams to have them come to a level of to provide e want support for that consensus. And let me just add one point. When was the last time you saw meeting day after day and the number of senators growing with each meeting that we have. Is to each one of them committed to getting to a solution. Very at to me is earncourageing and we havent quite at around here for sometime. Senator from your leadership, the floor lling on Chuck Schumer has been different from what we are hearing from you guys. Onboard with what you guys are working on up here . They are certainly very much our meetings and our efforts. There will be members who will going to talk to them, to discuss possible options. We recognize that ultimately it the decision of Mitch Mcconnell and Chuck Schumer as to how to po seed and we are not trying to preempt that, but be ispful in showing them there a path forward and that a senators l number of from both parties are eager to find that path. Taking your phone calls this morning on day three of the Government Shutdown. Yuma in palm coast, florida, a republican. Morning. D caller good morning. Thank you for cspan, this is channel which has any sanity and there is no fake news. So glad that you give the facts as they are. My question is, where does the in the budget . L i simply cannot put that immigration is immigration and the budget, all employed who are not and u. S. Citizens are going to suffer because of some illegal absolutely this is ridiculous. Please explain to me how this works. Host yuma, we talked a bit empass that the immigration debate has caused ver whether to reopen federal government, that clip we just showed from the moderates trying the issue. The question now whether there will be a vote to reopen the government before some agreement is reached on immigration or as itch mcconnell has proposed promising to hold some sort of vote on immigration, but reopening the government first, seems to be about where we are this morning in the shutdown debate. An independent, good morning. Caller good morning. I do not i agree so much with the republicans, i democrat, went to independent, simply because the rats went so far off cliff and as far as im concerned, Susan Collins and murkowski are not republican, democrats. Rleft for me and any of the socalled republicans, the rhinos should not be, you know, trying to the democrats because that is who they are. And it should immigration have nothing to do with the budget. When you put illegals ahead of country and the face the other country, that is just over the cliff, as far as im concerned and it shouldnt be hope President Trump damns strong and builds the wall. Ost tony in fredericks burg, virginia, federal worker. Good morning. Caller good morning. About, im oncerned retired federal employee on disability. Medical t our insurance . Pays each time we go to the doctor and we dont we have a copay. What about the governments pay . For us. Host youre asking whether that will be provided . Caller yes. If we have a doctors appointment, we pay a copay, pays the vernment additional fee. We have to gos if to the doctor . If the government is shut down . Host well look into that for you, as well, appreciate the question. Pendleton, oregon, democrats. Good morning. Caller my first comment is, i think the guys should get forget everything and just concentrate on the budget. Again. S country going and the other i got a speaker for you, is the of the house, democrats were yesterday to bill shutdown until tuesday. And the speaker of the house bac back, declined clearance appropriate consent, what is appropriate clearance consent . Host you are asking what it the in terms of legislative back and forth . Caller right. About that re exactly, were waiting to see right now what the action is senate and in the what they send back to the house. Been several proposals put forth by various members of congress. Me come back to one that a viewer asked about earlier. To continue asure paying the military service, military bers of the service during the federal hutdown it was introduced by senator mckaskill, after failed to Reach Agreement to keep the running before that friday deadline. Eric katz nell, as said, opposed that measure and if you want to watch his reasons for doing so, it happened 1 21 im sorry, about p. M. On early saturday morning. Saying that he was hoping to restore funding to it entire government before became necessary to try to pay out just military members. Members not set to receive their paychecks until the beginning of next month, paycheck would come at that time. They do have time before those specifically not happen. But you can watch the debate on cspan. Org, or individual parts from the past couple days. Ts been a busy past couple days since the shutdown started. Robert is in oregon, line for ahead. Cans, robert, go im a republican. That i find gs ironic. Mukurkowski, Susan Collins, all number one. Two, in regard to the in my d dreamers, daca, opinion, are direct reflection reagans Amnesty Program believe. 86, i and dreamers are the children of Amnesty Program. This is why the chain migration addressed, number one im for legalization, but lets stop the flood. Shutting regard to down the government, in my opinion, the democrats are just a stand to embarrass oneyear anniversary. About optics and just work. Not let this law, dreamers are from their parents and im they do i think the results consequences for i r actions and that is all have to say. Host in terms of optics, weve een showing you live pictures from the National Maul this morning of some of the various monuments and the signs the limited bout by and available and large, open to visitors to walk through unlike in past shutdowns. Of the wall d street journal talking about that today in the lead editorial trump is trying to limit harm to the public, unlike what happened back in 2013. Terms of what other states are doing to try to limit the harm, here is a story from todays washington post, states pondering how they can government ederal steps out, some states have already found ways to limit the shutdowns effect on sunday. Governor andrew cuomo announced island would stay open on under an s dime agreement. Arizona says it will ensure the remains open whether the federal government reopens or not and expanded would cost hutdown the u. S. Economy their 6. 5 billion every week in lasts, an estimate from in dard and poors back december. May likely blunt the pain felt by tourist towns around the canyon and they wont do much to reduce the overall impact. The story in the washington post. Kim, blakevushgs ark a, line for independents, go ahead. Caller good morning, john. Been listening since the days of brian and chuck todd. Though, two things not being talked about during the is conventionist states, where the states get together and if enough ratify they could force the government to have a budget at specific time the budget is due and if the legislators didnt pass it, then would automatically just be cut across the board to everything and the budget would continue. To have t need them deals where cliff everything is up to the edge and you have no time except agree to to get g you dont want it going. Host in terms of the budget and states proposal, would you want the budget to be balanced budget . I want it to go down every year and if it goes down year, that is not enough for me. I would like it to go down 10, 20 , in my opinion, the federal government is three too big ur times already. Most of the issues we talk about lot of them, these are states rights, federal government shouldnt be into insurance business, shouldnt be the thing were not talking about because of all this and is somebody said objects, of course, the reason schumer is it shut down, the Mueller Investigation is investigation e into corruption of the f. B. I. And the Justice Department administration on ed fisa courts to spy , that is ampaigns worse than watergate, worse than everything. We are not hearing about it today, the government is shut shut the longer it is down, less we will hear about it, that is why schumer shut it down. Hashtag, schumer shutdown, hide the corruption, they want to alk so host got your point, tim. Talk about Chuck Schumer, here afternoon on the floor of the senate. The all really stems from president , whose inability to lench a deal has created the trump shutdown. I agree with majority leader mcconnell, the trump shutdown was avoidable. President trump walked away from not one, but two bipartisan deals and that is after he from an agreement in principle on daca we reached back in the fall of last year. If he had been willing to accept any one of these deals, we be where we are today. On friday, the oval office, i was a at i thought generous offer to the president. Generous offer yet. The president demanded for include deal on daca the wall. Most democrats dont think the effective, waste of money. E are for tough Border Security, every expert will tell and sensory devices and roads and personnel are for the wall. Tive than but because the president the wall, and said it would be paid by mexico, and wall for the sake of compromise, the sake of coming offered it, despite what some people are saying on these are nd you folks not in the room during exactly whathat is happened. Ost the white house yesterday challenging some of Chuck Schumers memories of what was conversation with the president , here is the Sarah Sanders. Schumers memory is hazy because of his account on friday, meeting is false. And the president s position is clear, we will not negotiate on he status of unlawful immigrants while senator schumer hold us hostage. Bill, line for democrats, go ahead. Caller yes. Mitch to know, will mcconnell allow any bipartisan deal to ever come to the floor . One october is when we should budget. D a new but, were busy trying to get reform and now there is nothing. Were shutting down the government. Why . Because what, mcconnell doesnt democracy . And republicans just want to rule . What is going on . Host carlos, line for republicans, go ahead. Morning. Es, good host good morning. Caller i just would like to say as a person in my 40s, i think it is here, United States, to have a government pathetic, where this country is so beautiful and and the way founded the politicians are playing, you military and with with all these senators and do what is right because these military people we this country and fighting for freedom and peace country. It is just so wrong to shut down the government and for them not to pay them. Is so, so wrong. They have to stop playing go do what the American People what is right people of this country. Ost zach calling from Guantanamo Bay, cuba on the line for federal workers. What do you do down there . Hey, well, im down here United States army and we all have frustration as far you know,my unit and, all five branches down here in facing mo bay, so frustration as far as the pay really didnt get anything. Far have been watching as as when we might see the pay as far as a vote to push for military pay to come in. K i that was pretty much my whole question, but would have to en decide to do that, issue that back pay, so we dont know that since we dont know how long the shutdown is going to be. Changed today at Guantanamo Bay, zach, describe the scene down there, how it is any other day . Any functions on that base that shut down . Aller well, no, we are still active duty base, function at ext duty base, require to do daily task, whether that be at the navy group or what does in general, but, you know, moral, really, for a lot of people in support of the and i appreciate that support, we all do, not only gau Guantanamo Bay, but around the world. Disappointing because cspan is only thing we can on t. V. , Everything Else is pretty much down during of our, own, so most t. V. Shows, le and are facing it we here. Host the Armed Forces Network down there. Today about a lot the blame game, schumer shutdown, trump shutdown, do care, zach . There caller you know, yeah, they politics. About party i think that is one thing the military is fed up with, you mattis e thing general put out in memorandum to all departments under the dod, we remain strong as military, remain a fighting force that is to deter anything that comes at us and not let this shutdown affect our readiness as a whole. Like i said, it hasnt. Functioning as an active duty post. With, and the things i do with Detention Group ere at Guantanamo Bay, you functions are still to same, were still going work, still doing our job. Is, you know, the to, were anged over fed up, tired of doing our job seriously and we dont get paid for it and dont get rewarded for it. Have to face the punishment for it and congress, ou know host did that start on saturday or did these continuing impact you . Was moral taking a hit from funding the government from a or a month . Ks caller you know, its really, total, almost we really it because understood most of us were times, to iraq or afghanistan prior to this really nt, so it is immediate it was and we knew what was going on, paychecks whether to send back home to our family. Most of the battle buddies i leadership i t have here, they have money to send back to their wives and children and support their family because their wives, maybe they dont work, maybe stay home and take care of the kids. I know a couple cases where that case, but its more of an through it, were paid until february 1, we have lready gotten paid on the 15th of january, but it doesnt look like well get paid on february 1. It will last k that long, zach, as you watch what is happening . Looks like it will. Because Mitch Mcconnell and Chuck Schumer, the way we were our point of view, it looks like they are going back and forth. Was disappointed to see Mitch Mcconnell was reluctant in a guys showed to pass the ution to pay for budget, like in 2013. It was really disappointing to see that and disappointing to Chuck Schumer really dontonnell. Ant to focus on the issues government as a whole, coming heard a young lady talking about making ends disappointing, we fight for something that we as far as important follow life, liberty and pursuit of happiness. Workers arent being able to pay bills because they are not getting paid, that also takes a hit on moral, makes us wonder what were fighting for doing here if our ountry is immobilized back at home. Host zach, you talk about back home, if somebody at guantanamo ay was scheduled to go home today, would they be allowed to go home . Do you have to stay on base through the shutdown . Caller we have to stay on base. Leave. Allowed to take we have to put that through our then take mmand and leave periodically. Allowed to take leave right away and not allowed to go n pass, we still have to maintain our active duty working duties and job as a whole. And its like i said, nothing affect it as far as its just operations, we are wondering when is this oing to stop and when is it going to kick back up as far as the government . Zach, you talked about congress and how do you view commanderinchief, President Trump and his role here . President know, trump, i think hes our commanderinchief, well military supports him, general mattis support him, we support general mattis, the of secretary mattis was an important appointment mattis is one of the most Popular Military ranks, he camethe down not too long ago and us ted us and talked with about how important our job is as, you know, soldiers down here in Guantanamo Bay and our jobs down here and strategic importance here. At we do down but, you know, we support our ommanderinchief, we support our military as a whole, we support, like i said, all five down here and it is a small island, we are all family is competition, but other than that, were all family and supporting each other and you know, we support our commanderinchief, and wish would do a better job. Host did you get a chance to general mattis yourself in having the meeting . Aller yes, we got to ask questions. Host what did you ask him . Caller mainly what it was going as far as for a long time, obviously prior to taking over the administration, obama treated ation Guantanamo Bay as if it were going to close as far as Detention Group. Were asking since we work in etention group, what we were going to be seeing as far as any improve locations to acility operations and basic physical security within the detention facilities. To how long do you expect be down at Guantanamo Bay . Caller here, for foreseeable a timeline,nt give due to operational security, but the own here for foreseeable future and hopefully will be back before holidays. Zach, good luck, thanks for talking to us as much as you have. Lynneville, iowa, line for independents. Good morning to you. Morning. Hey, good how are you . Welcome to the United States of the illegals. Now, i hope that commercial for i get samebay, maybe amount of time, put a clock on it. Points, maybe four at the most, maybe let me get through them. Come from a state, charles 8000something senate d votes on the before, oor, ive asked how many times has he spoken the pledge, at the beginning of the day . I would actually like to see nyone in congress propose a are not says if you resent to recite the pledge of after the accide allegiance, you do not get to ote that day, simple requirement. You show up at 10 00, stand at your desk, you recite the pledge. I pledge allegiance to the states. Not to illegals, not to daca. Ow, okay, move on to the next point. Immigration. Cspan explain the way immigration works . In el salvador is a painter. United to come to the states. 80welcome him as in the last something years. Allow him in if the illion painters that are citizens, if that million falls 900,000. Lets get more painters in america, we need painters. Doesnt cspan do a whole story on three days, a how immigration works . Ost tom, we talk quite a bit about immigration on this program. The cspan back to archives, cspan. Org, for several of those segments with with s of congress, various Interest Groups around the country, with reporters who it, plenty to take a look at. Few other tweets as weve been this conversation. President trump has set up the scenario to win the battle over illegal aliens, aggressive for enforcement of laws. Oesnt have to do anything right now, wants congressional action. About 15 minutes this morning before the senate coming for action for the day. The house expected in at noon. Until 10 00 here on washington journal. Steven is in washington, line democrats. Good morning. Caller good morning. Good morning. Got a simple solution to the Illegal Immigrants that come into this country. The company 100,000 dollars per and put the c. E. O. In jail, that is the only way going to stop this, otherwise youre just adding to the problem. As far as im concerned, t the hes just a madman, hes lunatic, the sooner we get rid of him, the better off this country will be. Host on issue of immigration in the commentary pages of the ashington times today, the attorney general, jeff sessions, with his piece. Meritbased immigration system is the headlines, he writes, President Trump ran for meritbased g for system, lets in the best and brightest and turns away criminals. Idea, ommon sense employers dont roll the dice when deciding who to hire, incredible military doesnt draw straws when deciding who to accept. When picking new americans, future of this country, randomized uses lottery system and chain migration. Mr. Trumps proposal is not unheard of, the attorney general writes. Law allows countries to choose future canadians and australians idea, employers dont roll the dice hen based on assimilating, arriveing and contributing to society as a whole. That system would be great for economy, of course, much more importantly, best way to ensure our immigration system to harm our inue National Security. If you want to read more from you ttorney general, point to the Washington Times today. Independent, good morning. Cheryl. D, caller okay. Schumer and this a a pelosi shutdown. Friday, there were our bills, one was funding for military. One was for the chip program, forh is Health Care Program the children and President Trump sign it said he would for six years, not six months, that obama put in when he was in in order to get things passed. That is why were going through this three weeks, two months, ridiculous. For wallsher bill was and barriers, which need done me, trump knows a the devices in tro drones or things like that. Dont be taken in by democrats. Democrat, never will be again. Host cheryl, what is the deal pardon . Host what is the deal to be had . You talk about what is being is the natural deal that can come together here . Caller the deal that wait, i people what is going on here. Then there was security. Security of all the devices and those were the only yesterday. E voted on daca was not there to be voted thatd theyre trying to is why the democrats voted no. Host carol in pennsylvania. Yesterday a lot of focus on that moderates who are working on some sort of immigration package. See more from that, if it happens later today or throughout the weeks. Susan collins leading that meet nothing her office been showing ve scenes from around washington, morning. The title basin from the Jefferson Memorial on this third the shut down. There has been signs of various monuments around d. C. , talking about limited be available might today in the wake of the shutdown taking you to the steps doorway of the Jefferson Memorial, right there, one of National Park service signs. One other sign to show you this this sign from utside dc coffee shop, caught by reuters, washington, d. C. Reporter, the sign saying federal employees, we got you, coffee on us, at this shop here in fee d. C. Angelonchicago, line for republicans, youre up next on washington journal. Caller hello, sir. Ahead. O caller yes. Im a republican, strong trump reporter, i do many federal too employees and, you know, i think the private sector is growing now, that is basically the way the government should be, sector should have majority of employment the federal ersus government. No way in the world you can go where they have so many federal employees and so many employees versus the private sector. Well see how a federal worker feels about that. Sal is a federal worker, your thoughts, sal . Caller yes, hi, good morning. I am now retired, but i want to say one thing. Employee forfederal 30 years. Just as mployees are important, if not more important as necessity. Will say this. Im t, in my 30 years, just addressing a previous call you had about Health Benefits. Changing. S your Health Benefits stay. Your your in 30 years, never seen once, get back pay for the amount of time that weve off. The only time i didnt get paid, furloughad an intern al in my agency. Everything remains the same, tenure, everything remains the same. Dont let federal unions out it is not true. I will tell you that, i mean, paid this week, at least employees are, getting paid this week. Not going tough is last that long and being an give on year, they will there are employees that must continue to work n. Closing, i democrats knowy, also how damaging furlough can employees, i ent dont call it a schumer shutdown it a mp shutdown, i call combination of both of them. Host can you talk about federal unions, why would federal unions want to scare federal employees . Caller political reasons. The Union Official for a long time. Constantly, we put the fear out there. Rather have a budget, face the fear, face what im now and not waste every time there is a furlough, life is going to be down the road. Ive been through three furloughs, i know what im talking about. Host sal, thanks for the call this morning. Two furloughs, two shutdowns so far this century, this, the first since 19 since 2013. 2013, last one was 1995, aplenty in 1997, most time, hort period of 81, most for 82, just a at a or two, not one in 1985, sorry about that. Tweets this morning on what is happening on capitol hill in negotiations. From emocrats emerging bipartisan meeting and senator Collins Office saying they will leaders moving back the noon vote to get a deal. Firmer commitment for mcconnell to move on immigration, though. Tweet from doug jones, the new senator from headed to moreat bipartisan talks this morning. To tor flake are working find Common Ground and end the shutdown immediately. So, perhaps some movement on what was expected to be a noon vote today on that continuing resolution. See what happens, things definitely in flux. Maggie, in louisiana, line so, for democrats. Go ahead. To er yes, i was calling say they want to put everything on a democrat. I am a democrat. The best people to have in ffice. Getting rid of Mitch Mcconnell, is thee better, he president is and Mitch Mcconnell and all the there, they n are and need to get on. Ost donald in maryland, an independent, go ahead. Caller yes, good morning. The air . Host yes, sir. Caller okay. Employees arent under contract with the federal government. Officers and military personnel are under a contract, sign a contract for how many years they stay in the service. Just cant pick up and leave, all right. They got to go through their time. Federal employees arent under contract, they shouldnt even be in the budget, federal shouldnt money shouldnt be taken away from it the contract. Of that is all i have to say. Ost view from an overseas federal employee, robert is in taly, where in italy are you, robert . Caller not far from the air venice. Ortheast of caller retired military, sir. Host your thoughts on the third day of the shutdown . Caller just a few facts for people calling in. Personnel, if they are doing banking with the navy usaa, they will go ahead and give them what they would have been paid if they deposit and also, the lady who talked about should have two different bills, one immigration and one for the the government, it felt like they are not going to get paid. Opened government gets back up, they will get all back pay. As far as the fwft is concerned, they are holding the entire country hostage for 800,000 illegal aliens. I have no problem with the need to be they separated and we need to have eople coming to our country to help our country, not depend on it. Thank you very much. You have a fwrat day, sir. Host robert, how many Government Shutdowns did you go employee . S federal caller three of them. Host what is the worst thing that happened during shutdown . Of people whined and cried, the worst, i mean, happened last t one we had, they put the signs up in front of the world war ii memorial, there was no reason to do that. Political stunt. Nobody out there everyday them. Aining or guarding so a lot of those kind of things a y say will happen in Government Shutdown, it depends guess ts to be meaner, i you would say, instead of going gar. G had is happening to you and you, to pit us against each other. Needs to be two different bills. The military will be taken care of. I said, i was telling you about the usaa and other naval union for the dependants hat are back in the states and they are worried about not getting their husbands, wives paycheck, they will get it, just call the bank up, whatever your deposit is, they will give it to you. Host got it, robert. From cbs 8 on Credit Unions during the shutdown. Unions and banks are offering no interest loans eligible federal workers, the list includes large institutions like usaa, and like the locally owned cabrillo credit union, the to fill the gap until the government reopens. News outnt more, cbs 8 of san diego with that story this morning. Avid is in new mexico, a democrat. Few minutes before we finish here on the washington journal. David, go ahead. Caller hi, yes, sir. Was calling in to say, make a small suggestion for you guys, the host and maybe producers look at, it was episode on vice on hbo friday, frank lund focused on just republicans. I think it would be nice if you invited frank to have a discussion on the program about that is findings were in and take a look, you will find it very interesting, that is say. All i fwot to host appreciate the suggestion. We have our focus panel every on washington journal, it is you, the callers. We appreciate you joining us, democrats, republicans, independents and today special line for federal employees. Charles, republican, jacksonville, florida, go ahead. Doing . How are you host doing well. Caller just like to let you 82yearold vett veteran, i was a democrat for years, until the second term of onald reagan and that is when my eyes opened up as to how much were going s communist. Word progressive was first used by the russians during war ii and after. So, you know, if we keep going and electing democrats, were to eventually get to be a socialist nation and that means communism. Host charles in florida, last washington journal, well of course be back here tomorrow morning 7 a. M. This week on the communicators, we take it to the Consumer Electronics show in las vegas and speak with Industry Leaders about their latest of elements in artificial intelligence, robotics, virtual reality, 306 to degree cameras, and enhanced communications for self driving cars. Watch the connecticut is tonight at 8 00 eastern on cspan2. Watch the communicators tonight at 8 00 eastern on cspan2. See spence senior history producer mark ferc a shared some background on the upcoming series landmark cases. Its returning by popular demand. Thislisten to the calls morning, they are talking about race, their talk about the powers of congress, the constitution and immigration. Weve got season two, 12 landmark Supreme Court cases that take you through the history of the country and deal with these cases that really have something to do with today. With the National Constitution center, we had a long set of cases and what we wanted to do was to take clays cases that had a Human Interest story to them. These cases affect human beings across the country. The cases came down to, did they have an impact in a time, did they change the court or their country and their time and how relevant are them today and all of them are relevant today. The first cases mccullough about maryland which is the federal government overriding state laws. Another case about immigration. We will have two guests on set and a video journalist producer who will go around the country to the places that helped tell the story for each one of those cases. Wo we will go to San Francisco, for the civil rights cases, there was a case overturned in 1875 that made on constitutional affixes Supreme Court ruled against that, the jim crow law when into effect in this country. Read rick douglas made an amazing speech a week afterwards. We will take in the place where Frederick Douglass makes that space of thats a little bit of on the set and we will take your phone calls, tweets and interact with the audience. Well talk about how the shows are relevant today. Be sure to watch season two of landmark cases beginning of february 26 at manacled p. M. Live on cspan, www. Cspan. Org or listen with the free cspan radio app. To help you better understand each case, we have a companion guide written by a veteran Supreme Court justice journalist. Shipping and5 plus handling so your copy, go to www. Cspan. Org landmark cases. Our continuing coverage on cspan and this third day of the federal Government Shutdown. This stems from the senate being unable to move forward with a shortterm funding resolution on friday night at midnight eastern time. The shutdown went into official affect them and five democrats voted in favor of a shortterm funding solution through the middle of february but for republicans voted against it. The shutdown went into effect again friday at midnight so all weekend, the white house, lawmakers have been in meetings. They are trying to come up with some kind of solution in one of those ideas was a slightly shorter shortterm funding solution that would have taken the government funding through february 8. Right now, the senate is in and theyve got a vote scheduled for cloture which means they limit debate to move forward with whatever theyve got ready in terms of another shortterm funding measure. , noon easterngain time and the house is expected in at noon again and you can watch the senate on cspan2 and they are in now. At this point, the leaders of the democrats in the house, nancy pelosi, we will hear from am eastern. M. Time and she will talk about the Government Shutdown in terms of impact on National Security and what they will be able to do in terms of trying to keep funding and essential aspects of National Security in place. The houses in at noon eastern. Expecting a White House Briefing at 1 30 p. M. Eastern. Take a look at this from ncr, laying out whats happening in the shutdown. The senate is planning in the dayton vote amid active negotiations. This is from 8 30 a. M. Eastern time, a partial shutdown of the federal government stretched into a third day. Also a look at some of the changes an impact in this area, washington, d. C. Reportedadio station that the mark trains that service a lot of the employees that come in from the suburbs are prepping for the feds leaving early because a lot of federal employees actually did show up at work today. They were expected to begin their day and be there for about ,our hours without any changes the shutdown still in place but they needed to prepare for the shutdown and go home around noon. And amtrak are per. For a possible rush hour around noon. We see the Senate Leader at the podium on the senate floor we will take you there live. Quorum call . The presiding officer the senate is not in a quorum call. Mr. Mcconnell mr. President , in two hours every senator can vote to end this Government Shutdown. At 12 00 well vote to end the Democratic Leaders filibuster and advance instead a bipartisan bill that would put this mess behind us. The bill before us does three things that every democrat and republican should be able to support. First, it ends the shutdown and restores full funding for the federal government through february 8. Second, it extends Health Insurance for nine million vulnerable children. And third, it will enable congress to resume serious bipartisan talks on the important issues facing our nation. I respect the passion that many of my friends in this chamber, democrat and republican alike, bring to the major issue before the senate, all of these issues. Each of us brings our own views and personal perspectives to discussions of immigration policy or Health Care Reform or details of Government Spending. But we should not let the political feuds or policy disagreements obscure the simple fact that every member of this body cares deeply about the challenges facing our country. All of us want to make life better for the American People. Bearing this in mind, i hope and intend that we can reach Bipartisan Solutions on issues such as military spending, immigration, and Border Security and Disaster Relief before, before the february 8 deadline. But yesterday evening, i restated my position that these negotiations cant last forever. Should these issues not be resolved by the time the funding bill before us expires on february 8, so long as the government remains open so long as the government remains open it would be my intention to take up legislation here in the senate that would address daca, Border Security, and related issues as well as Disaster Relief, defense funding, health care, and other important matters. Let me be clear. This immigration debate will have a level Playing Field at the outset and an amendment process that is fair to all sides. This immigration debate will have a level Playing Field at the outset and an amendment process that is fair to all sides. And it would be my strong preference for the senate to consider a proposal that can actually be signed into law, a bipartisan, Bicameral Group is already negotiating, and i look forward to completion of its work. But its abundantly clear that the senate cannot make progress on any of these crucial matters until the government is reopened. We need to move forward, and the first step, the very first step is ending the shutdown. Its evident that this Government Shutdown is doing nothing, absolutely nothing to generate bipartisan progress on the issues the American People care about. Every day we spend arguing about keeping the lights on is another day we cannot spend negotiating daca or defense spending or any of our other shared priorities. So look, lets join together, put the filibuster behind us, and get back to work for the American People. A look at the floor of the u. S. Senate. Once we start hearing from democrats, we will bring that to you as soon as we can. Just a reminder that the third day of the Government Shutdown, the senate is not able to pass a continuing resolution which would have been shortterm funding as of friday midnight. Five democrats crossed over and voted for the shortterm funding but for republicans decided against voting for that. That has been changed. The wall street journal says one of the votes on the republican side was senator mike lee of utah and she and it is reported that he opposed the spending bill friday night but is undecided his vote. That could indicate they will get more support for what is now going to run through february 15 as the original continuing resolution would have, would be shortened to february 8. The house will begin at noon eastern perhaps for a short time and they are standing by and awaiting action in the senate. We will hear from the mi craddick leader of the house, nancy pelosi. We will bring that to you live here on cspan and you can also tune in online at www. Cspan. Org. Pelosi hear from nancy and she will address specifically National Security issues in the house again comes in at noon eastern time, working and standing by, waiting for senate action. Its businessarted this morning at 10 a. M. Eastern and you can continue watching live on cspan two and voting at noon eastern on a threeweek extension that includes six years of child Health Insurance Program Coverage and also possibly working to come to an agreement on when to agree on daca. We will go ahead and keep you updated as we hear whats happening with the senate as well. Taking a closer look at some of the implications