>> i think holly has mixed emotions. >> piers: because she's probably had to be mrs. hefner herself. >> well, i don't want to put words in her mouth. the reality -- and some fans because they keep rerunning "the girls next door" show from five or six years ago where, you know, crystal was my girlfriend. >> piers: where holly was, you mean. >> yes. >> piers: holly was. it's quite confusing. you were with somebody else. >> i said in one of my tweets, i can't confuse reality with reality tv. i mean they're not the same thing. >> piers: do you keep score of how many women you've managed to seduce? >> i stopped doing that a long time ago. >> piers: what was the tally when you stopped? >> i don't know what the number was. there's something more important in relationships than quantity. >> piers: really? is there anything more important to your life than sex? >> oh, yes, absolutely. sure. >> piers: like what?