that's why not everyone is surprised to hear these remarks from the president but they're deeply troubled by it. >> and you're deeply troubled by it. you write in your op ed for cnn.com, if we start to brush these moments off as trump being trump we will lower the bar so far it will be impossible to ever repair the presidency. so you're actually worried about the long-term impact on the office of the presidency. >> absolutely. it's something serious to consider. the normalization of some of the rhetoric he's used and some of the actions he's taken is dangerous because it then lowers the bar for the next president and the president after that and this becomes a normalized part of presidential politics. it's not unconventional. it's not out of the realm of what you can do. you can speak this way, you can say these things and this is part of what the u.s. presidency will become and we can't do