that is missing -- it is a dodge in a -- in a lot of ways. >> but that wasn't their role. >> that wasn't their role. the intelligence said that wasn't the role of the investigators here. we have no idea if votes were changed or not and that is another piece to look at in today's indictment. the hacking of state voting machines, state election systems -- not voting machines. misspoke there. that is a subject that remains kind of deeply shrouded in mystery and haven't been any kind of complete investigations of any of the states. so a little bit here and there but we actually don't know what went on in a number of states where electoral rolls -- and there were problems with voter registration. and we don't know if any of that was a result of hacking or not. we still don't know. >> it makes one wonder if the old-fashioned way where you go in and punch a ticket and everything is on paper instead of this electronic way, which one is better? any time you talk about bitcoin and cryptocurrency, you're over my head because my niece's