ukraine is connected. it might end up being independent. that's really the challenge in front of special counsel mueller is to connect all the dots. >> then you have this broader array of influence that we see in facebook today, them shutting down accounts that they are now identifying, which you could argue they could have been doing all along. the idea that they don't know who's doing what on their platform is denied by the reality that if you and i were on facebook right now talking about what type of bass rigs we're using, all of a sudden i would get an ad for them popping up on my screen. >> that's right. >> so they can know, yet you have the vice president saying we know the russian interference didn't alter a single vote. no. we know there is no proof that any of the tabulation machines and the voting machines were affected by the hacking. but we don't know the impact of the propaganda. it's impossible to know. are you concerned about where we are in the next election and what might happen from the same people? >> i'm very concerned, chris. i worked hard in a bipartisan way to get $380 million in