exclusive reporting that apparently when he was being held by the terrorists, he converted to islam, referred to himself as a warrior for islam, and even at times would let him carry around his own gun? >> that does concern me a little bit that now if that is true and that he did convert over, now he's back, or coming back to the u.s. a little concerning. >> just a little. yeah indeed. >> yeah. >> what about the fact that a top taliban commander was -- time magazine reached out to him and apparently they talked to him in the past. and he says that for them, the lesson of the five for one swap is there is money and then there are hostages and they're going to try to go ahead and take more americans hostage because that's how they can spring their guys. does that surprise you? >> no, it doesn't. it just seems like the same thing that the mexican cartels do, that people pay for