can't plan budgets for the week, right? you don't know what the paycheck is. >> i hate to laugh, but the market place creates the calmness or the schedule for the owner. the marketplace, if your store's empty, you don't need workers. people this for the product and services, you need workers. the market place gus that, not government. making a business pay more money because of less business is crazy. it's going to backfire. >> i agree it's a market driven phenomena, and the more -- >> you're ignoring the market. it's ignoring the market. >> it's not ignoring the market. in fact, moving your employees to a stable schedule -- this policy targets only the most egregious practices. you have -- we're talking about, say, a worker who gets child care for her children, pays $2 .25 to get on the bus, travels an hour, and shows up on the door and acceptability home? >> david, what i look at is you look at the guy running an ice