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necessity to include great masses of poor people in the first world -- >> no, i understand that, but he's referring to us. we do have social programs, we do have situations built in and we do give a lot to charity. take a look at this. i don't know if you have a monitor. i'll read it to you just in case you don't. here in 2013 we sent out just from the government let alone the 39 billion that's sent out from private funds just from americans with a kind heart, $31.7 billion. the second highest is the u.k. with 18 billion. germany with 16. i mean, you had spain with $2 billion and we have the most purest form of capitalism. does the pope understand those numbers? >> i think the pope and especially the vatican knows these numbers. the pope, as i told, didn't want to come here to blame a single nation. it's just the country, but he

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