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careful where the country is on intervening and on putting boots on the ground, back into iraq and possibly syria. >> juan, something we heard a lot about tonight, bernie sanders kept saying no way, no troops on the ground. you part out the parsing she said, special-ops is different than putting combat troops on the ground. she said isis, governor o'mally was saying isil, but she said these troops would be the biggest target for isis. it would be a recruiting tool to have combat troops there on the ground. so it's something that got discussed tonight for sure. >> without a doubt. that basically echoes what president obama was saying to a group of columnists at the white house this week. he sees the large american presence on the ground as provocative, as stirring up antagonism towards the united states, and not necessarily solving the issues on the ground. i think the larger point here for what she had to say is the general election, and i had that

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