driving around. but the only thing you are supposed to know about him is he is a hard working immigrant. nobody mentions the fact that this was the case. i don't know. it seems to me -- >> tucker: had he interacted with federal immigration enforcement previously, in the country illegally? >> he had a deportation order from 2010. he was supposed to leave 8 years ago and never did. he got married. he had some children which are now used as the basis for his claims to stay. the fact he has an american wife and children. that sounds like the definition of having an anchor baby. >> tucker: he had kids here. i hope the next time i get pulled over without driving without a license, you can get arrest. i hope christian will defend me. >> and chuck schumer and