jedediah: isn't he the kind of guy that can infuriate the left though. pete: that's it. jedediah: not taking any of their nonsense and political theater. this could have been over in two minutes him saying i didn't interfere in the investigation and i didn't have any conversations with the president or top white house officials with it the end. that should have been it. pete: college football player from iowa. they don't like him. is he white and they will don't like him. they play the identity politics game all the time. listen. ed: not because they don't like him because he is white. pete: i will take that correction. fair enough. but they don't like him because he works for the president and he has been critical of the mueller probe. as a result, he is then defending the fact that he didn't interfere with it they can't take that they are triggered by that very perspective. ed: you spoke last hour. jedediah: debbie lesko pete spoke to last hour and she has something to say about this democrat overreach. take a listen. >> this was theatrical show, character assassination. just another way to undermine president trump. it was really disgusting.