stupid. and that's your government today. borrowing 40 cents for every buck we spend. that is stupidity. >> i wonder if there's a disconnect, senator, and i look abotd it this way and i know a lot of people and i have this cowboy spirit too. i'd love to have the government leave me alone. on issues like abortion and such, leave me alone. i want to be out there on my own life and yet i know that the government through democratic and republican administrations has created this welfare system for people over 65. all health care expense under president george w. bush, all your pills, all your medicines covered. did we live -- have we created a skidsoid mess where we think like cowboys but we've created this welfare system we have to pay it. so everybody says keep the government out of medicare. what a ludicrous statement. the government created medicare. you laugh but people think like this. keep it out of medicare. what do we do about this? we have a welfare state run by cowboys that don't believe they have a welfare state. >> well, in wyoming the other day there were five members of the legislature, all of my party, who voted to kill off

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