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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20110412:06:08:00

their own primaries? remember, the primaries did in the republican party when the tea party took over them. they're seeing that they can have problems getting a candidate out even if they had one and right now they don't even have one. >> do you worry that you could bring your heavyweight candidates that you don't particularly find exciting like paul lenty and romney, even though they're not exciting to you and don't turn you on, john, do you think since they're serious candidates they may suffer when they meet the actual paper? you know why didn't the dog eat the dog food with all the advertising? he didn't like it. could it be that they don't like these -- what's really going on is people are going chaotic out there and giving trump all this attention. he's up to third now or actually tied for second in the national poll last week because they're really saying no to mitt romney. it's really a statement romney is so boring, we're willing to go with this flash right here. we're looking at him. he's exciting. >> well, i think donald trump is very exciting. i think he's very much an

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20110412:06:39:00

pay for your million dollar health care costs. it's a joke. >> right. but here's the perverse thing. for a start the age exemption didn't work for bush when it came to social security so they know that's political. >> because people don't hear this? >> they don't hear it. >> that's a political opportunity that perversely this white house is not going to leap on right now. there may be lots of people in the senate who say let's use it as a political football but this president is going to say -- >> they're saving it for november. >> no, no. the president will say if there's a deal out there, let's do it, but the deal has to be reasonable. the deal has to include taxes. what's unreasonable -- >> in other words, don't let it be dead on arrival. let the republican sit out there, sit out there as the basis for a compromise. >> if you are serious -- { >> is that smart? >> they are smart enough to play that game but they're going to say if you are serious about deficits, you cannot leave taxes off the table. >> will that ever sell? >> will the congress ever adopt a combination of some modification or cost cutting, which we know has to come to place, somehow squeeze the medical costs and a tax increase

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20110412:06:21:00

that is stupidity. >> i wonder if there's a disconnect, senator, and i look abotd it this way and i know a lot of people and i have this cowboy spirit too. i'd love to have the government leave me alone. on issues like abortion and such, leave me alone. i want to be out there on my own life and yet i know that the government through democratic and republican administrations has created this welfare system for people over 65. all health care expense under president george w. bush, all your pills, all your medicines covered. did we live -- have we created a skidsoid mess where we think like cowboys but we've created this welfare system we have to pay it. so everybody says keep the government out of medicare. what a ludicrous statement. the government created medicare. you laugh but people think like this. keep it out of medicare. what do we do about this? we have a welfare state run by cowboys that don't believe they have a welfare state. >> well, in wyoming the other day there were five members of the legislature, all of my party, who voted to kill off something which would have helped the contractors this summer in wyoming with extending

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20110411:23:21:00

stupid. and that's your government today. borrowing 40 cents for every buck we spend. that is stupidity. >> i wonder if there's a disconnect, senator, and i look abotd it this way and i know a lot of people and i have this cowboy spirit too. i'd love to have the government leave me alone. on issues like abortion and such, leave me alone. i want to be out there on my own life and yet i know that the government through democratic and republican administrations has created this welfare system for people over 65. all health care expense under president george w. bush, all your pills, all your medicines covered. did we live -- have we created a skidsoid mess where we think like cowboys but we've created this welfare system we have to pay it. so everybody says keep the government out of medicare. what a ludicrous statement. the government created medicare. you laugh but people think like this. keep it out of medicare. what do we do about this? we have a welfare state run by cowboys that don't believe they have a welfare state. >> well, in wyoming the other day there were five members of the legislature, all of my party, who voted to kill off

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20110411:23:39:00

-- >> they're saving it for november. >> no, no. the president will say if there's a deal out there, let's do it, but the deal has to be reasonable. the deal has to include taxes. what's unreasonable -- >> in other words, don't let it be dead on arrival. let the republican sit out there, sit out there as the basis for a compromise. >> if you are serious -- ç >> is that smart? >> they are smart enough to play that game but they're going to say if you are serious about deficits, you cannot leave taxes off the table. >> will that ever sell? >> will the congress ever adopt a combination of some modification or cost cutting, which we know has to come to place, somehow squeeze the medical costs and a tax increase for people that can afford it as a more democratic, a more fair way to deal with this problem? will they get that through and signed by the president or is that just a posture? >> i think it's a possibility but they'll be glad to talk about it for the next few months. the one thing the president doesn't want to do is talk about tax increases in isolation. >> fair enough. i'm with you. >> as richard was saying, that

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20110411:23:08:00

but it says a lot about the voters. can the republicans control their own primaries? remember, the primaries did in the republican party when the tea party took over them. they're seeing that they can have problems getting a candidate out even if they had one and right now they don't even have one. >> do you worry that you could bring your heavyweight candidates that you don't particularly find exciting like paul lenty and romney, even though they're not exciting to you and don't turn you on, john, do you think since they're serious candidates they may suffer when they meet the actual paper? you know why didn't the dog eat the dog food with all the advertising? he didn't like it. could it be that they don't like these -- what's really going on is people are going chaotic out there and giving trump all this attention. he's up to third now or actually tied for second in the national poll last week because they're really saying no to mitt romney. it's really a statement romney is so boring, we're willing to go with this flash right here. we're looking at him. he's exciting. >> well, i think donald trump is very exciting. i think he's very much an outsider.

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20110411:21:21:00

and that's your government today. borrowing 40 cents for every buck we spend. that is stupidity. >> i wonder if there's a disconnect, senator, and i look about it this way and i know a lot of people and i have this cowboy spirit too. i'd love to have the government leave me alone. i want to be out there on my own life and yet i know that the government through democratic and republican administrations has created this welfare system for people over 65. all health care expense under president george w. bush, all your pills, all your medicines covered. did we create a schizoid mess where we think like cowboys but we've created this welfare system we have to pay it. so everybody says keep the government out of medicare. what a ludicrous statement. the government created medicare. you laugh but people think like this. keep it out of medicare. what do we do about this? we have a welfare state run by cowboys that don't believe they have a welfare state. >> well, in wyoming the other day there were five members of the legislature, all of my party, who voted to kill off

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