pay for your million dollar health care costs. it's a joke. >> right. but here's the perverse thing. for a start the age exemption didn't work for bush when it came to social security so they know that's political. >> because people don't hear this? >> they don't hear it. >> that's a political opportunity that perversely this white house is not going to leap on right now. there may be lots of people in the senate who say let's use it as a political football but this president is going to say -- >> they're saving it for november. >> no, no. the president will say if there's a deal out there, let's do it, but the deal has to be reasonable. the deal has to include taxes. what's unreasonable -- >> in other words, don't let it be dead on arrival. let the republican sit out there, sit out there as the basis for a compromise. >> if you are serious -- { >> is that smart? >> they are smart enough to play that game but they're going to say if you are serious about deficits, you cannot leave taxes off the table. >> will that ever sell? >> will the congress ever adopt a combination of some modification or cost cutting, which we know has to come to place, somehow squeeze the medical costs and a tax increase