to a youth movement to creating jobs in detroit. so we'll see if dave bing can avoid bankruptcy in detroit in the next year or two. >> do you think rahm emanuel for president? >> he loves to say that he absolutely has no interest whatsoever, but i would say he's on the short list for 2016. >> mitch landrieu? >> we'll have to see. the fate of new orleans is very tied to the fate of mitch landrieu. >> okay. let's take a closer look at four republican congressmen on the list. paul ryan described as a house republican whiz kid. tim scott of south carolina. kevin mccarthy of california, and jim jordan of ohio.รง we've heard a lot about paul ryan, but who else on the list is do you think going to make it to capitol hill at some point? >> i mean, jim jordan could be a very interesting candidate. he has had a lot of -- he's joined the debate much more in the past year or two. again, a lot will depend on how