among people making from, like, $30,000 to $50,000. >> yeah. >> in the republican primary. i owned that group. and owned them pretty much in the general election whereas people making more money voted against my opponent. that was the big revelation, margaret carlson, with ronald reagan. ronald reagan got reagan democrats, got working-class people to believe that he was fighting for them. but now with carried interest, with warren buffett paying lower tax rate than his secretary, with all of these things going on that sheila talks about, suddenly the republican party stops being the populist party. they need to listen to her, don't they? >> they sure do. you know, the thing about it, there are two women who are making this point. sheila bair and senator elizabeth warren about how the playing field is so tilted in favor of investment income and away from the person who's, you know, ironing your shirts and,