to go and the vice president is here for multiple reasons. one, of course, is that el paso is where the trump administration began their family separation policy and from a messaging perspective, they see this as an important place to come as they tried to establish in their words a fair and humane immigration process. republicans have criticized them and the vice president specifically for not going to the rio grand valley as part of the border and they're at a much higher level and you hear progressives and other democrats critizing the administration for not moving fast enough to get to that humane system including back that title 42 policy, the trump-era cdc order that is expelling people on the grounds of public health and putting them into danger if you talk to advocates and that still exists today. there is a lot for the vice president to see and a lot to learn while she is here and still a lot of change to be made from the era of the trump