Wants. She is a free spirit. That danger of american government pack. I don't think any of these with good advice. A massive turnout in a big state for harrisburg i am feeling very good about pennsylvania. What you need to know about what trump is doing when he lies about a dystopian nightmare caused by immigrants. Is the justice department doing enough to save democracy from tyranny? we will not allow this nation to become a country where lot enforcement is graded as an apparatus of politics. It all starts right now. Good evening from new york. I'm chris hayes. One of the weird advantages donald trump seems to enjoy in this campaign for president, a lot of americans have blocked out what it was really like living through trumps last year , particularly, at the white house. He was downplaying and mismanaging the worst public health crisis in the century and calling for cops and soldiers to dominate americans protesting police violence and racism. 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We aren't going to let this election be stolen by joe biden and the democrats president trump won by a landslide. You can take military abilities and placed them in the states and rerun an election in each of those states. They were convicted and pardoned like michael flynn and roger stone, the my pillow guy, overstock. Com guy, rudy giuliani, marginally tailoring and sidney powell the attorney whose meritless lawsuits and conspiracy theories didn't release the crack in so much as incriminate her and jeopardize her law license. Jeffrey clark who propose to take over the justice department and use it to bolster trumps accounts and who ended up having his house rated for election interference while he stood in his driveway in his underwear. All those people in power trump and worked to facilitate an attempted coup, even while other people in the white house like trying to own white house counsel tried to stop them. I opened the door and i walked in, i thought general phlegm, i thought sidney powell sitting there. I was not happy to see the people in the oval office. Again, i don't think they are providing first of all, the overstock person, i have never met. I don't know who this guy was. The first thing i did, i walked in, i look at him and i said, who are you? and he told me. I don't think any of these people were providing the president with good advice and so i think, i didn't understand how they had gotten in. I will tell you, the president of the united states invited them in. He wanted overstock. Com guy right there. There was a reason that donald trump cleaved to the most whacked out power hungry reality denying weirdos in his intercircle instead of sitting to his white caution personnel. Or his vice president as an vice president steph. As he felt his power slipping away, he consciously invests energy and people who would indulge his insecurities. People would encourage him to follow his worst instincts and cling to power by any means necessary up to and including staging the first attempted coup in american history. Donald trump was so mad he left washington without even attending his successor's inauguration. Leslie images of him inciting insurrection, egged on by the kooks who he invited into his entourage. That happened. That is scary enough. But, here we are again. Look who he is keeping around him now. For instance, far right media personality laura loomer, a self identified proud islamophobic who says she is prowhite nationalism. She has been called. She called, harris a drug using prostitute and was called racist by marjorie taylor greene , of all people. We told you how the rumor was called for the execution of trumps political enemies and celebrated violence against migrants, got a ride from trump in his private jet to this week's debate. How she then accompanied the former president to a 9/11 memorial observance of manhattan despite the fact she is a 911 truth or we told you how elected republicans and campaign officials have grown concerned over trumps increasingly close relationship with loomer. They certainly seem very close many insiders saying she has encouraged him to push the conspiracy theories is now spouting on the campaign trail. One thing is certain, trump is kind of enamored with loomer right now. It's good to have you. You have been very special. You work hard and you are very opinionated. And in my opinion, i like that. Everybody appreciates you. Thank you so much for inviting me to sit with you today. It's a pleasure. You are the best, i love you. It's kind of sweet, in its own weird way. All this came to a head today at trump's latest availability. After a few days of people asking what the is going on here he was asking pointblank about his closeness to loomer and her nutty extremism. What would you say to republican colleagues or your allies who are concerned about your close relationship with laura loomer? i don't know what they would say. Laura has been a supporter of mine, just like a lot of people have supported. She speaks very positively of the campaign. I'm not sure why you ask that question. Laura is a supporter. I don't control laura. She has to say what she wants. She is a free spirit. I don't know. I can't tell laura what to do. She is a supporter. I have a lot of supporters, so i don't know what exactly you are referring to. That's okay. Yeah, please? i just don't know. Laura is a supporter. I don't know. She is a strong person. She has strong opinions and i don't know what she said, but that's not up to me. She is a free spirit. You can't keep that bird in a cage. She has expressed herself and say things like 9/11 was an inside job. She's a supporter, so what can i do? it doesn't matter what the person does they are a supporter. That may be true but it's not true that trump is unfamiliar with loomer's statements. Yesterday he was sharing links to loomer's website on his own social media accounts. Today, loomer is posting more 9/11 conspiracy theories to her own social media. I'm not going to share them with you. Some republicans are grumbling about his closeness to loomer, and others are following lee. The national republican senatorial committee, a group that has been doing a bang up job by the way, gop's official campaign arm for the upper chamber has increasingly relied on the video content loomer produces. Since july the and rfc has featured her videos. Make no mistake, if donald trump becomes president again, laura loomer is going to be there on day one. She might even end up in his administration. Laura loomer has been a warrior for your dad. I hope she is press secretary. Listen, she's a bulldog. I will say that. She gets after it. I love the first secretary. That was donald junior back in november of last year. Again, this is not i can't stress this enough is it's not guilty by association. No, no, no, it's trumps m. O. Openly embracing supporters with the most extreme bile authoritarian bloodthirsty impulses to match and deepen his own and then empowering them and using them to facilitate his own worst impulses. We saw it already. We have been through it. It is not theoretical. On january 6th, that is what we are heading for again, very obviously. That is why it matters that a freespirited, openly racist, deeply troubled 9/11 wants to is getting so very close to donald trump. Michael steele is former chair of national public committee. Olivia is washington correspondent for europe magazine. She spent some time with trump at maralago after the assassination attempt and in the lead up to this week's debate. They join me now. Michael, i want to read for you what tom, who is cleaning clinging to some bulkhead of normal beachhead of normal republicanism. He says today, laura loomer is a crazy conspiracy theorist who regularly utters disgusting garbage intended to divide republicans. A dnc plant couldn't do a better job than she is doing to hurt president trump's chances of winning reelection, enough. I imagine that is why they shared and yet, and yet, and yet. And yet, somewhere. Where was he when trump told the proud voice to stand back and stand by? where was he when donald trump said there are fine people on both sides. And where were any of these fulks? as this crazy moved closer and closer around trump? they were nowhere? why? they didn't care. Why? they were making the money. They were getting the votes. They weren't turning on them. And so, they were useful tools, by the useful idiots, who made as much as they could have it. The interesting thing, that i find most amusing, and i know you well, mr. Hayes, marjorie taylor greene seems to be a little bit out of sorts about all of this. I wonder why that is. I wonder why she is upset about even more crazy. The reality of it is, that is all a part of this ongoing dance of, who is going to be the housewife of donald trump, kind of thing. Who is going to be the closest to him? who is going to have that influence? you put your finger on a lot of it, donald trump has these people around him, not because he is seeking advice from them, not because they are offering any particular intellectual insight, but because they are affirming his worst instincts. They a from his better judgment. They tell him what he wants. You showed that picture of loomer standing under donald trump. First question was, where the heck is milani? that's a little too close for a picture. It's that kind of closeness that donald trump likes. Here we are on a friday night, getting gloomy. Here we go. The part about marginally marjorie taylor greene, there is two parts of the m. O. That are very consistent. The point i made about january 6th were sometimes really deranged people get very close to him, but he also likes it when the people fight each other and for each other publicly and brutally because that is, that feeds the ego addiction like they are doing this for me and it seems like this all happening in front of him and in front of the nation is kind of like what he enjoys. Yeah he is a reality tv host. Let's never forget that. Let's also not forget his political rise on the right began in this era, anyway, with his promotion of the racist conspiracy that barack obama was not born in this country. He was one of the central promoters of birth are is him. He claimed he was sending investigators to hawaii. He talked about this recently. He worked at the trump organization and don burke said something like, whenever said to send investigators but it was all made up your he was playing to this racist backlash. And so none of this is aberrant behavior, to have loomer around or any of these people around him, they are not there because they are bringing a new perspective. They are there as michael said, to affirm what is already his worldview. The abhorrent step is when he had more measured people around him and actual traditional political experience. All of this is a return to what it was like in 2013, 2014, 2015. That is a great point. And then the last days of that administration, the runup to january 6th when the hr pat, they weren't there. It was the overstock guy, the pillow guy, your loomer and stones. Go ahead. His more runofthemill white house staffers to traditionally might ask them what they think about something. If they were telling him, you lost, he would yell and scream and they really didn't want to be anywhere near him. In that void you had that sidney powell is an rudy giuliani's of the world. We saw how that worked out. When his back is up against a wall, he likes these comforts but i think it's what he has people like cory back in the fold now. He wants to feel like this is 2016 again because he won that one. I will say, the stakes are very high because if he were to win, day one is like, we are going to do mass deportation. There will be people telling him this is a disaster. That's going to matter a lot, who those people are. I identify some of that. I think it was very easy to laugh at this at the time, but there was always an argument from people working in administration, you don't have any idea how betty would be. You don't know what we prevent on a daily basis. 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A place donald trump won by more than 14 points in 2020, however, his margin in 2020 was slimmer than it was in 2016 when trump defeated hillary clinton by 19 points. Keeping that trend going is the formula for statewide success in pennsylvania. harris needs to keep her attention on places like looks very where she will not win outright, but she could lose by less than her predecessor and every little bit can help harris get over the top and win the all important state. Austin davis is that lieutenant governor of pennsylvania. A senior adviser at our republican legacy to bring back traditional principles and they both join me now. Let me start with you, lieutenant governor. It really ran 57 county strategy in the commonwealth. It paid off in those margins and lots of counties in which your ticket didn't outright win but shaved those margins. How important is it to get out around the state for the democratic ticket? thank you, chris, for having me today. To be with you. In 67 counties are in pennsylvania, it is critically important because you can't win with just democrats alone here. You have to bill's a coalition of democrats and republicans and independents to win this state. You can't just rely on big cities like philadelphia and pittsburgh to carry you across the chris finish line. You have to go to counties where it might not be easy to be a democrat at times, and you have to talk to those voters and connect with them and talk about how we are going to make their lives better. That is exactly what josh shapiro and i did in our campaign. You are seeing vice president harris do that with her stops in wilkesbarre and jonestown today. You have to make sure you get all of these counties because we know this election is going to be close to the last election was decided by less than a percentage point and in a scenario like that, the margins really do matter. Charlie, the vice president sat down with a local affiliate outside philadelphia today or while she was in the state and giving an interview. She had the central theme that i think is there is a substantive that appeals to the center and then automatic rhetorical one which i think has been central. I want you to take a listen and tell me what you think. This is kamala harris speaking to a local reporter in pennsylvania. In my heart, i know in my soul, the vast majority of us as americans have so much more in common than what separates us. I also believe that i am accurate in knowing that most americans want a leader who brings us together as americans and not someone who professes to be a leader who is trying to have us point our fingers at each other. I think people are exhausted with that approach, to be honest with you. What you think about the exhausted line approach? i think that type of message will resonate. I think people do get frustrated with donald trump because of his own personal evinces. They are exhausted with all of his complaints about january 6 and now he is getting off on tangents for people eating pets and they are tired and exhausted with it. That's a message that resonates and chris, i need to point out, and i agree with governor davis, there are 67 counties in pennsylvania between 2016 and 2020, donald trump did marginally worse in 66 out of 67 counties from 2016 to 2020. He did worse. The only county he did marginally better in was philadelphia, and he was beaten badly. Every other county is where his margin slipped and i think the harris campaign is trying to take a little bit about page out of the biden playbook where you try to shaved on the margins and all of these other states because the democrats will lose most of the counties by a considerable margin but they will win big counties with the big population centers and that is where the game is. But they have to go to wilkes barre and johnstown and other places where they are going to win by less. Lieutenant governor, go ahead. Just to jump in there, i think we as democrats have to go to places where it is not comfortable to be democrats. We have to compete in every community. We can't leave any committee behind. Particularly as a party, we haven't focused enough on rural communities. That's what josh shapiro and i have been doing and i think that's where we are seeing vice president harris. Let me ask you, it is a little strange when you have to say i understand that fracking has been a large driver of industry in pennsylvania. It has been central to a bunch of people. There is a weird way in which pennsylvania equals the issue of cracking is this conventional political wisdom that i just have a hard time squaring the math on. There is 26, 35,000 people that have jobs in the industry. There is 13 million people in the state. I understand it is important to some fulks. Do you think fracking is as essential to the minds of voters in pennsylvania? i think overall pennsylvania is a big industrial state. We are an energy producing state. Fulks are concerned about their jobs and families economic wellbeing spirit they are concerned about the jobs that they have today being there tomorrow, and so when people talk about fracking i think it encompasses a lot of that and many times, democrats don't necessarily embrace a strategy and fulks in communities like mine, was big steel countries, they have seen job's leave and that the message that community. Fulks want to continue to see a bright economic future and they want a leader who is going to fight for that future. Kamala harris has demonstrated that she is that leader. What i would add, that fracking and natural gas industry really does speak to the industrial heritage of pennsylvania. Steel, coal, cement, this is a state that has been known for basic industry and energy, and so it is absolutely offensively issued to a lot of pennsylvanians. I think it is something where donald trump is making hay out of it but harris had to get herself adjusted on that issue. It speaks to a lot of working americans who can identify with the industry. Pennsylvania is a second largest natural gas producing state in the nation and we have helped change throughout the world, and so many pennsylvanians are aware of the impact throughout the world. Fossil fuel extraction under the bidenharris administration has set alltime records for any country ever in the history of the world. Thank you, both. Back in 2016 j. D. Vance called trump anti immigrant lies reprehensible. Now he is helping spread that what you need to know about the latest turn in the maga strategy, next. I can't! i'm just telling everyone!. . . Hey! buy one pair, get one free for back to school. Visionworks. 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Together, they are running the same playbook, spewing dangerous lies about immigrants and pet stuff today it's the plan to talk about it every single day to make people afraid and put innocent people in danger because they think it is good for the campaign. Is why events posted today, don't let biased media shame you into not discussing this slowmoving humanitarian crisis in a small iowa town. We should talk about it every single day. While, because j. D. Vance and donald trump have not stopped talking about these lies, the people of that small ohio town which is 60,000 people , are facing bomb threats for the second day in a row. They weren't facing that before, but now they were. Schools were evacuated and again municipal buildings were closed again. This is the republican strategy. Is is how they are helping the people of springfield, ohio point they think they will win votes with their xenophobic lies. Clearly, they don't care who gets hurt. Adam is a staff writer where he wrote about the global mr. Trump who will believe anything as long as it is cruel, politically expedient and on tv. He joins me now. I don't think i think you would agree, it doesn't matter whether he believes it but it was striking in that debate he was back checked on these slanders and said, i saw people say on tv. Well, that is good enough. Yeah, these people are here legally, working hard, doing everything that republicans say that they want immigrants to do and donald trump and j. D. Vance are lying about these people because they are black immigrants. And the most cynical part about it is that the plan here is to provoke a lot of criticism that they are being racist on the assumption that white voters will be insulted by accusations and support trump. They have failed to bait kamala harris into saying something that could make racism the big issue of the election in this way so they are now torturing this small community in hopes they confronted in the white voters to win the election. It is reprehensible and one of the most disgusting things i have ever seen in american politics and honestly, it makes me enraged. I feel exactly the same as you, and there is something else about it, too. That point is so smart and true. The inability to race bait, harris and get a rise out of her. Now, you direct your ire at a bunch of random people trying to go about their lives and making their way and end up with bomb threats in schools but there is this other thing that happened in 2016 that is happening again. I think they learned the lesson that being outrageous and offensive and disgusting on this issue makes it the front and center issue and they think as long as people are talking about immigration, no matter how offensive, they are winning. I think there is a deliberate strategy to say disgusting things because it does that attentional think that they want. Even when you are pointing out that this is a racist slander, a completely fabricated life that they are repeating over and over again, even when you are debunking it, you are repeating it. It gets into people's heads. It makes the issue more salient. That is exactly what they are trying to do. They are trying to make this the issue even though it is not the issue. They are trying to do that because they hope this sort of race baiting will give them a political advantage and they are terrorizing a small community to do it. It is absolutely disgusting. The thing i keep thinking about, i know you are black and jewish and have had written about both of those traditions in your life. About, there are a lot of fulks that came here from ukraine, and whose ancestors literally fled because some reprehensible demagogues started spreading lies about what their people were doing. This isn't some abstraction. There is thousands, hundreds of millions of people who are here because the thing that drove them away from their country was someone saying, they are doing this disgusting thing. This person committed this crime , and it is not like some abstract strategy. It is one of the oldest ways that violence is engineered against groups that we know of. Chris, it is the reason why most of the american population is here. Virtually, every group in america that is descended from immigrants was the target of this kind of lies and hatred. That they were bringing diseases and crime and ruining the country, taking people's jobs and didn't want to work but didn't want to assimilate, and the tragic history of this, chris, the people who are targeted by these lies then turn around and tell the same lies about other people. That is in part what we are seeing here today. Thank you so much for your time. Donald trump is still lying about democrats weaponizing the doj against him. Meanwhile, the woman flying around on his plane is calling for his political opponents to be tried and executed for treason. Very real dangers on the second trump turn term, i had. I ha. D with the one and only sotyktu, a oncedaily pill for moderate to severe plaque psoriasis, and the chance at clear or almost clear skin. It's like the feeling of finding you're so ready for your closeup. Or finding you don't have to hide your skin just your background. Oncedaily sotyktu was proven better, getting more people clearer skin than the leading pill. 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I would not be the person that i am today had it not been for the partnership with umgc. The department of justice has been really busy these days if you haven't noticed. They have been doing investigations of erik adams. Including the resignation of the new york police chief who had his phone seized. Doj is also wanting corruption conviction against another prominent democrat new jersey senator bob menendez who resigned from the senate result. They got both a conviction against hunter biden on gun charges and a guilty plea on tax charges that could send him to preson. The doj under biden is very of coursely exercising total independence from either personal or partisan incentives that's the way it's supposed to be ever since president richard nixon stepped down from the office in disgrace. Yet one of the things is donald trump very clearly wants to use the justice department purely as a partisan weapon. And chief justice john roberts went out of his way to give his blessings for this in this court 63 immunity in july. Those in trump's inner circle echo this. Like loomer who is flying around with trump on his plane saying that some democrats should get the death penalty. Day visit rowe says trump is vowing to prosecute political foes is becoming more complicit to convict those who he sees as foes. And joining me, the author of where tyranny begins. The justice department, the fbi and the war on democracy. David it's great to have you on. And i'm so glad you wrote this book because, i think in the trump era, the independence of the justice department is like the loaded gun sitting on the table for this story of whether american democracy survives in its current form, what do you think. I agree and, we'll talk more. But in the end, bill barr of all people did the right thing. He stood up and said no. Joe biden won the 2020 election. And more importantly the judiciary court held and 50 other judges all rejected trump's claim of massive voter fraud and joe biden became president. If we have a disputed election that narrow margin your wife talked about earlier what will happen? how will the judiciary respond. Well, so there's that. How the judiciary responds in, contested election. But let's say donald trump wins. Let's say he wins outright. Fair and square. Wins a bunch of swing states. This question of the justice department, i mean, explain to me the understanding and the kind of norms and internal institutions the justice department from nixon to now that have really policed against actively it being essentially just a partisan weapon. It's been an extraordinarily successful half a century fearing what happened to nixon. They feared if they meddled in an investigation or tried to protect a friend that they would be forced to resign. It worked until trump. He very aggressively attacked the justice department. Tried to coop it, tried to intimidate the workers there. And i examine it in the book, the first chapter is on the trump era and it's a series of tactics he uses over and over again. It's a style of practicing law that's called lol or lol laughing out loud. Nothing matters lawyering. And it's cohen 2. 0. But you bring a lawsuit or make a legal one is to dominate the press. Your version of the law or fact. Two to own libs and three to impressive donald trump. I spoke to career doj officials who took them months and some years to figure this out. That it wasn't about winning the case legally or on the facts, it was sort of about messaging and getting a political win. That's how you use the justice department. You know, one of the things he had a long post on saturday about the election, the rampant cheating. He said when i win those people that cheated will be sentenced to the extent of the law. Lawyers, political, donor, illegal voters. On one level you can say, oh well this is him just talking trash. But you know, robert says in the immunity decision, that there's, you have anything you tell the justice department to do is fully within your constitutional rights as president. Up to and including what it would mean go prosecute that person and therefor can never be prosecuted as a crime afterward. That does seem to me as giving an enormous invitation to donald trump's worse impulses with the department in a second term. In short, yes. I mean he in addition to what you sited, he's talked about recently about prosecuting cdc officials from the center for disease control. The food and drug administration. But to explain the historical context in this. Conservative, legal thinkers, members of the social society. They feel the water gate reforms went too far and weakened the presidency. That this massive country needs a strong president to hold it together. And so, roberts and bill barr feel that you know voters, a president should have absolute immunity and can tell the president and they will be held to congress every four years. What happens when the president doesn't accept the election results. And also, obviously like the prosecutorial power is just so right for abuse. I mean, you know, in a sort of presidential less democracy. You can say for instance joe biden after that immunity decision could have been like call up the justice department and said, start an investigation on clarence thomas' taxes right now. We all understand that's wildly improper. And i think would trample on core constitutional protections, equal protection, due process. But that's not, that's not a theoretical idea. And that's the change that came out with the immunity ruling, judge cannon's ruling throwing out the classified documents case. And that did not happen in 2021. I go back there with trump appointed judges. There were this supreme court, you know, held up the election. So judge's can make the right decisions but trump has the power now to indict who he wants. David rhode, thank you. Thanks a lot. That is all in for this week. Alex wagner tonight starts