again a lot of things in europe there are different opinions. the countries to the east of baltic nations like the they are very worried about what's happening close to them in ukraine and there is difficult balancing act because i'm the one hand you have countries like france who wants the eu to have more power to try and improve its strategy and its autonomy when it comes to security and foreign policy but on the other hand you have countries who don't want to duplicate my challenge nato. nato is everything to them and they want the us presence there and they tell is important and they want to keep the russian issue right up on the agenda. so yes to answer your question a lot of fear here around europe and i think the talks effectively ended in the stand age and has been the development and on the ukrainian government announced it had been subject to a major cyber attack and we don't know who is responsible for that but that is