>> it's true. >> i'm about to get up and leave this table, i just want you to know. this conversation makes me very uncomfortable. >> he thinks i'm rolling out of here. >> a different conversation. what's the threshold for owe obesity. >> the other issue this idea of a fat letter is the stupidest thing i've ever heard. if you are a kid and you are overweight you know it without a letter. you know you have a second chin, a pot belly. >> this is you when you were a kid? >> thes. >> that's me when i was a kid. until i was eight, nine i was extremely fat. they didn't need to send me a letter home for me to realize that. i had this thing called a mirror. all that would have done was made me more self-conscious, more anxious. i would have either started throwing up my meals like i did in college or i would have dug into a pint of haagen-dazs. if you make dids unduly anxious and more self-conscious about the way they look you are not going to goad them toward physical fitness but toward neurosis.