there would be kind of consoling the family in the idea that officer liu in some sense continues on and continues to be a presence within the universe rather than simply disappearing from it. that would be the main sort of teaching i think they would bring to it. >> and it does seem that that's what the nypd certainly is trying to do. they've renamed two streets in the area. they're also saying his legacy, his life will continue as a reminder of all the values that he incorporated. eight hours, is that traditional, the length of the ceremony? >> yeah that's the general chinese tradition. i don't know for certain that they're going to do this ceremony for eight hours, but that's the usual tradition where the family just kind of gathers around the body. they generally don't believe in