situation and what you hear in his voice. what i hear is somebody who is emotionally flat because they're struggling. they're not just struggling because they're in a mexican prison which is about as bad a place you can be. we're talking about bowe bergdahl. we're make ting this case. i get it's a different situation. but the guy needs help. and it's a story that we have to follow here because part of the job -- the case doesn't make a lot f sense. >> it is not clear how this is going to go. >> and we don't know what the state department is doing. we had secretary kerry on the show. the guy seems like he's a little bit out there on his own with his family and he needs support. >> his mother has been his only -- >> he's got pts. you heard him say he's not taking the medication. >> important to get his voice