you cut off the head that thing starts moving in another direction, regrowth. how important is he? of course, you want to find him because of the hor rehe just did. leadership how important is it? >> when you evaluate the terrorist groups the guys on the line are storming universitys in somalia and kenya and killing people. then there is the leadership. when you think of threats on the united states i focus on leadership these are the people that tell someone down the line a 19-year-old terrorist, your target isn't new york city. it's difficult to grow people with that vision over that time. when we were focusing intelligence effort the guys on the field can be taken care of. it's the leadership we the cia and fbi have to go over and those are the people that are targets for things like drone strikes, eliminating the head of