legal expense. >> that's exactly what it was a claim the sun court observers say makes much of the prosecutors arguments for them that video could be played before the jury. >> no question here with me today or author and podcast host kara swisher rionda salam, president of the manhattan institute and contributing writer at the atlantic, new york times journalist in podcast, toluse, lulu garcia-navarro and jonah goldberg, editor of the dispatch and columnist at the la times. >> welcome back, everyone. so rye khan, can donald trump get a fair trial in manhattan honestly, i don't see how he can. >> of course, finding a jury that it's going to be broad minded and fair is going to be exceptionally difficult, but the bigger issue is it's that this would not be a set of charges brought up against anyone else other than donald trump. you have alvin bragg, the manhattan prosecutor, who is notorious for not