the president was a consequence of the ukraine president's unwillingness to launch an investigation into the bidens. two questions. one, have you ever heard of a u.s. president asking another nation to investigate one of america's citizens? >> no, but i do know of joe biden saying if you don't fire the prosecutor in question, we're going to withhold, you know, a billion dollars in loan guarantee. >> he was operating as the v.p. of the united states of america, not personally, and he was joined by a parliament vote in ukraine and the u.n. and several western democracies who were all trying to remove the prosecutor. where is the personal animus link? >> well, and what i would also continue to say is that this shows you that ukraine has had a problem with corruption for some time, and the story that i'm seeing tonight is that the president -- and he said it again today -- was raising questions with the new election of this new administration. were they going to be