comments from the academic at the university. he laid it out. he said that during previous administrations, both republicans and democrat, china was able to use wall street and henry kissinger. those letters of influence were broken in the trump administration because the president wouldn't talk to wall street or kissinger and they were looking forward to biden being in the oval office because they could influence biden. beijing was happy about this. i'm not saying that they were right. that was their state of mind. >> neil: as far as you know, very good sources and connections there, this idea that they were worried that a manic donald trump as the book state, would do something like that, like attack china or do something violently out of the norm, that doesn't add up to