appoint a second special counsel to investigate the fbi. he revealed he asked a federal prosecutor, john hubbard, to look into the agency's alleged abuse of power. republicans are welcoming that news while democrats call it a distraction. >> there were people at the top involved in the investigation who obviously had political points of view they were not shy about expressing. and, frankly, acting upon it seems. so having this prosecutor take a fresh look at everything that we know and could know is a very positive development. i respect the attorney general's decision. >> i actually don't think there needs to be an investigation. there has not been a showing of wrongdoing. so, i think this, you know, minimal investigation he's doing is an effort to sing for his super to appease donald trump. >> hmm. fred mccall away has more on this. >> appears to be not appointing a special prosecutor but not rejecting the idea either. instead he's appointing a respected government lawyer, outside of the washington bubble. to evaluate the evidence and ultimately decide whether to appoint a special prosecutor. he is utah u.s. attorney john huber, a man who graduated from the university of utah, was you a pointed by the obama administration and reappointed by attorney jeff sessions last year. >> this is a respected united states attorney. and i think that shows the seriousness with which attorney general sessions is taking the matter. >> so far the white house is reacting favorably to sessions decision, as you heard kellie ann conway say. but. trump hasn't weighed in himself. we have to wait for. that in the past he has hit sessions hard over the i.g. investigation maintaining the inspector general has no power to prosecute himself. other republicans have faith in huber. >> again, special counsel is the ideal. but i wouldn't write it off. i wouldn't minimize it the way some people are. >> but some house conservatives are minimizing the appointment of huber, noting the fbi has been unusually resistant to congressionals for documents related to alleged fisa abuses. >> i disagree with the attorney general kicks tell you i went through and reviewed some redacted things given to our committee. and on seven pages, there were 12 material facts, material fact not just names, material facts that, were omitted by the department of justice. it's time they come clean and give congress what we need. >> the democrats have long maintained calls for a special prosecutor are a distraction de signed to stop robert mueller. the fact mr. huber was appointed by the obama administration may mitigate some objections but not all. >> yeah, thank you for. that let's do a little bit on this, joined my republican congressman jim reneice, from ohio. what's your reaction to this? . i would never want to rule out the special prosecutor but i like the process. too often we get away from a process in washington. this is what the attorney general is doing. it may get us to a special counsel. let him do his job. we have a lot of good people in washington. let him do his job, let him find where are the issues, then if necessary let's appoint the special prosecutor. i praise he's moving forward in that direction. we may end up with a special prosecutor. but when we hire a special prosecutor, it costs the taxpayers money. i'm glad to see we're following a special process. >> does it make a difference the person looking into this is located outside the beltway? a lot of folks make the point he reports to rod rosenstein. >> i'm glad to see he's outside the beltway, he has the respect of many republicans and democrats. he has prosecutery authority, he has the background. let him do his job and move forward. we are he looking at, this happy to see we're looking at it, but i love to see the process, especially when we don't automatically jump into a special counsel. woe may get there, but let's follow the process. >> you know, one of the things of course that he's supposed to be looking at is also the idea of the clinton foundation. and what went on there and what was the investigation like. you know, what does it mean to bring it back up at this point. some say it's already basically shuttered. others say, well, you know it was doing some really questionable things and needs to be looked into. >> well, we need to look at all of this. the uranium one, clinton foundation, all of the issues need to be looked at and evaluated do. we need to hire the special prosecutor to do it, no. this individual, huber, can start the process, start to look at it, see what the facts are, turn those over to the attorney general, let the attorney general decide whether we quo to special prosecutor. i don't rule interest out, i just wish we would always follow the process. biggest failures in washington, many times to jump into something or to do something without following a process. i'm glad to see we have a process started here. >> what do you think about the revelations what carter paige is saying that the mueller team asked him about what was going on at the convention in terms of the conversations going on on the side lines with that ambassador from russia kislyak? >> one of the things i said about special prosecutors all along, stems the scope of their investigation gets too broad which is one of the reasons why i believe when we hire special prosecutors we should give them a specific direction to go and a place to go. i realize sometimes you have to go outside of those margins. but we get too broad of an investigation. >> but that's not too broad, if you're talking about he's supposed to be looking into collusion with russia and here you are at the convention, you have sergey kislyak sitting on the side lines, to want to know what members of the trump team talked to him about that's in the center of the fair way. >> that's why i said, let him do his job. we have experts, we have that special prosecutor, let him do his job. i just said i don't like when we get outside of those lines. he's not at this point, from what i've seen. we'll see as the investigation continues to go forward. >> what do you think could have gone on in those conversations? if he there is and having a conversation, is that improper, in and of itself? does it give you pause in if it was happening on the other side, what the heck is that? >> it's under investigation. i want to let the experts investigate this, come up with their opinions and decisions, bring the facts to the table then we can make those decisions. too many times we make assumptions over facts. i think in this case let's see what the facts are and make our decision then. >> maybe none of these investigations should be going on until the mueller probe is finished. >> well, no, i do think we have two different investigations. we have a russia probe and now an investigation into something else specific. by the way, we don't have a special prosecutor, we're use something one inside who has the respect to do it. let's let the process go forward. >> okay. thank you so much, we appreciate your time, sir. for more on all of this i'm joined now by attorney john jordan, also a republican strategist. thank now are joining us. what's your take right now? >> well, happy to be here. first of all, i think that washington is going to start figuring this out, that having mr. huber is much, much better than having a special prosecutor. if you have a special prosecutor, it's going to look like tit for tat. this it is equal parts law as it is optics f you have a special prosecutor it gets muddled up and easy for the democrats and other networks to undermine his credbility. here we have some one not only appointed by both presidents but confirmed unanimously. here we have the justice department working and we will have michael horowitz the office of inspector general report coming out. that's going to be very transparent. then if there is a need for a special prosecutor, the american public will likely be behind it. >> what does it tell you about where the investigation might be headed if he's asking about what was going on at the side lines at the rnc, networks making a huge idea out of the idea but they're really honing in on something specific? seems like a logical question. >> you have to understand the tradition involved here. since the middle '80s foreign am was dors have been invited bee the state department to the conventions of both parties. in the case of the russian ambassador, he has three jobs. in equal parts. to represent his country of don't the state department. equally to be an intelligence gatherer, to be a political insider in washington. as such he's a man about town. the russian ambassador is ubiquitous. lastly to be a lobbyist for his government to understand the levers of power in washington in the legislative and executive branch. you can't get away from the russian ambassador. i spent time with him in cleveland for goodness sakes. >> well, you spent time with him, what's your impression of him? >> well, he's a very smart guy, this is a prestigious post in the russian foreign min industry. they bring in people that are politically sophisticated, extraordinary language skills and extraordinary people skills. but their job is to be a man about town as much as anything else. so that they gather all of this intelligence, able to lobby minor and major government officials on behalf of the russian government on all kiemdz of the things from day-to-day. but you know, you can't get away from the russian ambassador, these types of things. it's been that way since promico, for 30 years. >> it complicates things this is a convention run by paul manafort, then you look at the legal situation he's in, vis-a-vis russia. and that makes the whole thing look a lot more suspicious. >> well, kind of look at it from the historical perspective. this was the first convention in american, modern american political history had the risk of being contested. this is a seminal moment in american politics. outsider defeat the, all of the political insiders. you had the real prospect of a floor fight for the nomination. so, you know, what russian ambassador wouldn't want to bear with it to this. that's why it was interesting to them, because it was a real -- a real departure from american politics, always been understood. >> what do you think about carter paige walking around talking about what he was asked? >> well, those reports came from he talked to ms nbc and routers. we need to develop that story in terms of what did he say. right now we're deeg with double and triple heresay. i'm not sure what he heard. i'm dubious of the swamp media on that story. >> we keep hearing about what's going on in these sessions that nobody is supposed to be talking about. >> yeah. it's unsub stan shated. >> about the process and accuracy of the reporting. i think a lot of people at home wish it would be over and we would just see what went on and see the results. rather than having all of these -- >> so many unnamed sources. so many likes, unnamed sources, not attributed, it's troublesome. >> john jordan, thanks for coming on. >> my pleasure. >> russia going tit for tat with the u.s. kicking out dozens of dwip low mats over the fallout about a chemical attack on the british soil. how the administration is responding and what it could mean for u.s.-russia relations moving forward. >> russia should not be ablting like a victim. the only victims are the two victims in the hospital in the uk right now. and the people who cannot go into the park, the medical workers, first responders. mitzi: psoriatic arthritis tries to get in my way? 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sorry -- the cold war. >> yes, the cold war, got you. what is the latest condition on the spy and his daughter? >> well, there's been developing news today, about that. the british police said that actually yulia, sergei's daughter is out of critical condition, she's talking to police, eating and drinking. many people said this nerve agent wouldn't have allowed that development. the great mystery, how that they are have agent was delivered. the police feel that it happened on the door of their house. if she can talk to police and give an idea of what happened the day they were poisoned maybe they can track down the russian intelligence agent who is believed to have done this. perhaps create that trail back to the russians as they are trying to do. but there are international monitors in the u.k. piecing it together and still looking for the man who carried out this attack. they do believe that was a russian agent. >> benjamin, thank you for that. more on this, let's bring in robert charles, a former assistant secretary of state to colin powell, former staffer to president's reagan and george h.w. bush. i don't know which part of that story is most disturbing. i mean, maybe it's the pictures of the icbm launching and attacking florida. >>le yeah, let's unfold or unpack this story. this is a typical diplomatic spy spat, usually very intense and last a short period of time, in a year's time a lot of the people are back where they were in the first place. or they are replaced. the context is very important. i think what we know about putin is that he's a bad akter, he is a -- actor, a former kgb agent acting like his pedigree, pushing the envelope wherever he can do it. the united states, and this is a very subtle but important message, the united states and allies acted in a uniform and in some ways unprecedented way in expelling 150 diplomats overnight at the same time, in two dozen countries. what does that really mean? it means if putin tries anything in the baltic or again in ukraine or pushes the envelope somewhere else nato will respond under article 5 with unity. they will be unequivocal in the kay that they respond and quick. the message back on that is sit down and absorb the fact there is unity in the western alliance. >> do you think it really means that? that would be great. but sometimes -- >> i think it does. >> sometimes you worry we're super tough and not necessarily allies that back us up. although i guess this was an attack on u.k. soil. >> yeah, i mean i think nato has gone through a bit of growing or regrowing pains at the beginning of the trump administration. this shows unity. and i want to go back to your point about the launch. couple of facts to understand here. first a launch of this kind of icbm is something that takes at least two months to plan. this had nothing to do with this tit for tat on spies. it was a launch that obviously was in the books for a while planned secondly, after the new stark treaty that triggered earlier this year, instead of competition between two countries, ours and theirs in numbers, we are competing in terms of quality of launch weapons. so what you are looking at in many ways, his statement they're still in the game. russia's economy tanked, it came up a little last year, but this is a country with icbms in oil and not a lot else to speak for it. i think in context you have to keep everything at a pitch that's below a dull roar. i don't think it's a panic moment. what i think it means, we have to be unified in alerting putin and reminding him we are a unified alliance. who's he picking for his friends? 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>> good afternoon. this was, we've reached a point in this country, the sheriffs have, where we can't stand by any longer and allow the continued marginalization of our abilities to keep our citizens safe, by the inaction of congress. congress has failed to act on this for 20 years. and further, what we are finding is there are more and more efforts in communities across the country because of inaction, where elected officials are breaking up the partnerships that we have developed with our state, local, and federal partners to maximize our ability, to share resources and intelligence so that pea can get the bad guys off the street n this case get them out of the country when warranted. so that our citizens can be safe. >> democrats say, and even some republicans in border states, say that a wall in and of itself is a tremendous waste of money, there's a lot of things you want to do. that physical barrier, isn't perbly effective. terribly effective. >> it's not true, i have been down to the border three times, also to the borders of israel. i have seen what the israelis have done. combination of you do need barriers at certain points, you need cyber security at certain places, seismic sensors, observation posts. there's a whole combination of things. certainly along the border there, the terrain doesn't allow for a wall at every place. but the walls are important and they are effective. we do need them and we have needed them for a long time. >> what do you think about the president's idea of trying to get the financing secured through the pen to gone? >> well -- pentagon? >> one thing about this president i'm proud of and happy to support is the fact that he's looking for whatever way he can to take care of the needs of the people, the things that he knows are important to america and to our safety. and he'll look for any creative way he can do it. as long as it's within the confines of the law, god bless him. we have waited 20 years. any of us, if we were in a private business and our boss told us we had to complete four or five projects and took us 20 years, we'd probably be fired after the first three years. congress just goes on and plays politics with this while the president is trying to really do something that's going to make a difference. and that's why the sheriffs are right behind him. and will continue to be. >> you mention the politics of it. and it does seem like that that is exactly what has gotten in the way, people in the past that were for funding border security now that it's call a wall or wall system don't want anything to do with it, don't want their name attached to it. how do you get it back to the place where it's not just about politics, it seems like that's getting in the way of getting it done. >> well, you do what's going on right now, which is the cher efs of this country are mobilizing, you're seeing citizens mobilizing, you're seeing county commissioners in california pushing back. this country, i think, is starting to rise up. they have had enough with the inaction in congress. they want something done. we pay people to go down there, represent our interests, and do something. all we get is this back and forth fighting over political issues, and so now the people are taking it into their own hands along with law enforcement, the sheriffs they have elected, saying enough is enough we're going to rise up and demand that congress do things. who knows, maybe we will end up with a go fund me page to help build the wall and americans can invest that way as well. we're going to mobilize this country and get it done. >> it's an interesting idea, did you just -- did that come off the top of your head or you've been talking to people about? 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>> getting heated, dan springer, thank you. new reaction to a stunning internal facebook memo now. that was leaked to the media causing big trouble for the social media giant. even as it struggles to respond to a scandal over the misuse of the private information of 50 million facebook users. so this 2016 memo was published by buzzfeed. vice president andrew bosworth says facebook's commitment to growth is more important than basically all other concerns. he writes, quote, we connect people, period. that's why all the work we do in growth is justified. all of the questionable conduct, the subtle language that helps people stay searchable by friends that can be bad if they want to make it negative, maybe it costs some one a life by expose something one to bullies. maybe some one dies in a terrorist attack coordinated on our tools. facebook founder and ceo mark zuckerberg is standing by bosworth, saying he, quote, most people on facebook disagree with the memo. let's bring in the power panel, back from the couch, sirius xm patriot host david webb, and the host of steel and unger on sirius xm rick unger. i mean, really, this means to me, when you see one of these executives going out there, and any team, pretending they're surprised by what is going with facebook and they're surprised by the negative outcomes and even surprised by terrorists connecting with each other, that's a lie. they aren't surprised. they discussed it and decided de facto growth is all that matters. . you could get to that conclusion. this memo has been around for quite a while. we're just seeing it now. it's been making the rounds in the silicon valley for anls. if you listen to mr. bosworth, he says i was doing that to provoke, i'm a proper advocacy tour. the worst part is facebook's owner, boss, basically came out and said that's not what he was doing and we don't agree with it. that's nice. >> david, at the very least, i mean, even if you took mark zuckerberg at his word and that he doesn't agree, shows they knew that people might die as a result of their practices and that they were discussing whether or not that made sense. i mean they can't ever say oh my gosh we had no idea this would happen when they act like they were victims of cambridge analytica. and, no, that's their business and they know it. >> not only did they know this but, look, they're tech guys they know what it can be used for. technology can be used for good or bad. >> the intention. >> the intention. if boss forth stopped before the "maybe" in the memo, then we could all say, okay, i get it, they're looking at growth no matter where it goes, they understand the risk of the technology. the minute you go to the next one, facebook is in a position of not being able to defend it to you or me or the american people or globally, people say hang on a second, you took this to terrorism and death, things that are on the minds of people, culturally conscious things as well as life on the line. whether it's intended or not or whether they didn't mean it or not, comes across as we don't care. when people are your product, that makes it tough on your business. >> one thing i ask of you, you're both political guys arc lot of people in the company have political ambitions. mark zuckerberg 2020, sheryl sandberg, seems like, wants to run for something at some point whether it's senate, congress, whether it's president. people have short memories. something incendiary as they were discussing the fact, what is our growth more or less important than people dying, the fact you are even having this conversation, no matter where you come down on it. does that hurt either of them in the long term, does it come back to haunt them? or do people forget when they run for office they'll forget until the political ads start running. it hurts them in the long run, no question about it. they may not have been the ones to say it. >> they're in charge. they're in charge. that's not the only problem facebook has had this week. all of this comes back in a political ad if either of them choose to run for office. >> on the other hand, if you're playing the numbers game, and that's what the numbers game in sales or this kind of field, while political ads can hurt you, at some, will be a group of people that say, well, doesn't matter to me. >> small group. >> and the republicans, probably. i don't know if they'll run on the right. >> when you have billions, whether it is a right or left issue, when you have billions and hundreds of millions in the country, playing the numbers game for an election localized, state or other size, there's an element not enough people may object. >> attorney general jeff sessions rejecting request to appoint a second special counsel to investigate alleged power abuses of the fbi. that despite calls from republicans to look into how the agency handled the hillary clinton e-mail investigation as well as revelations about christopher steel who put together the anti-trump dossier. the power panel is back. what makes this simple salad the best simple salad ever? 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[ laughing ] >> give it a shot. >> but i think he probably got it right. what he did was appoint a special counsel lite. mr. huber, out of the beltway, a bipartisan u.s. attorney. i think it was good idea. what's going to be interesting, you have to separate issues here. you have the part of this that are clinton related. those can go through their entire investigation without having to go to special counsel. you don't have the conflict situation. what's interesting is the fisa matter. there is one where you could have conflicts, you could say that people in justice are trying to protect other people. that may be the one that ultimately goes to a sperl counsel. which the attorney general has left the door open on. >> david you agree? >> this is a very uncomfortable panel. >> i agree. [laughing] >> i talk about this -- >> doing our part for peace and love. >> i love it! >> this is a process. i think we are outnumbered, i got blowback when i said the right has to get this right. there are some things that a special counsel can do and we're not there yet. i agree with rick on the fisa issues, you can't investigate yourself within d.o.j., cozy bureaucracy of protectionism. leaving the door open, a prosecutor that can empanel a grand jury, can have subpoena power, is different than an i.g. who can't subpoena people once they left the bureau. the clinton issue is an ongoing investigation. you aren't reopening an investigation you are actually going back into it f there is actionable evidence there, something you can charge, that prosecute or can charge it. the other side of this. if it's there and i believe it is, then it's something you can't bury as easily. and i think the prosecutor is in a better position than -- special counsels go way too far way too many times. and become long drawn-out processes. when it comes to the clintons we have to get right to the issue of the clinton foundation. that's a big problem. and then let's put the special counsel on fisa. >> as far as the guy out in utah picked to work on this, i wonder what that phone call was like? everybody who heads one of these investigations, you know, ends up just getting raked over the coals in the end it seems like both sides. this is one of the worst jobs ever. >> i don't know that that's true. on the clinton side, it's all political. no matter what the guy comes up with, whether he wants to file charges against clinton for various things or doesn't, you have people squawking about it, yes. but it's an old issue. it's going to be there, republicans will want him to go get her and all that stuff but it won't. it's the fisa court that remains to me the most fascinating. because this is where justice has to take a look at the work of other justice officials. there are a couple republicans in the congress who are getting a kick out of that, most of them aren't. that's the one that i think is fascinating. also because this whole case has been built on the idea that the fisa court judges don't read footnotes. they do. the good stuff, you know, you're a lawyer, the good stuff is in the footnotes. >> i'm not a lawyer, i play one on tv. i'm an economist. we have to go, sorry, david, thank you. the lawyer for stephon clark's family releasing the results of his autopsy today. he was killed by a police officer in his grandmother's backyard this month. we'll keep an eye on this. ♪ with expedia you could book a flight, hotel, car and activity all in one place. ♪ you've probably seen me running all over the country in search of our big idaho potato truck. but not any more. i am done with that. ooh, ooh hot - just gonna stay home on the farm, eat a beautiful idaho potato, and watch tv with my dog... tv anncr: the big idaho potato truck pulled into town today and it's really a sight to see. oh man...let's go.... 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