0 and you are angry and everybody is angry. he will walk right through this. a couple of guys will resign and everybody will be happy. >> could you do harry reid real quick? >> i can do harry reisner. >> that's not harry reisner. you should do famous people who are now dead. kennedy. >> abe bagota. still living. >> isn't what shillue said kind of true? as long as he checks the boxes of appropriate outrage the media will then pretend to be satisfied or will be. >> if we were talking about a duo of scandals, if we were just talking about the irs in benghazi that would be absolutely true. because you add in the ap the press goes wait a second, that's us. we are going to start governing all of this. maybe there is more to it. maybe there should be more accountability here. i think you are going to see a much tougher lens. had the balls, the kind of bounce, to go against obama and say he has to come clean on some maybe possible scandal that horrible horrible sea cow. he shouldn't be on tv much less saying things to the president much less what he put new yorkers through. >> you don't have to call him a sea cow. >> i apologize to the man that you tee viewers. >> are you talking about the fact he was involved in a scandal? >> yes. >> you have to say that. you can't just call him a sea cow. >> but he seems the way he looks. >> idiot. you can't just call somebody a name. you have to explain why. >> after you gave me a question like that i don't think so. >> what you said is it charlie wrapping gel is involved in a scandal involving money, he does not have the right -- >> he needs a nice car to drive around so he can show people he is a player. i respect that. >> bill's point is well taken even though he is not explain himself. once you commit some sort of scandal yourself you don't have the high ground anymore. >> i like how none of us have -- >> i don't know if you are moving on, sherrod -- >> he bought lots of apart part ments. he bought low cost apartments and lived in eight of them at the same time. >> which is impressive. >> the only good thing that could come from this is david axel rod who was so off race after the boston marathon bombings, he came out and wanted to throw americans under the bus. he was the one who said they wouldn't say terror or terrorism, but he was the one who said hey, it was tax day and patriot day. this is probably tea partiers. he is making the connection and praying it was american citizens who had done that. i was offended by that. for him to come out and say government is too vats. vast. that is the greatest argument for libertarianism i have seen from this administration. even if he is not technically part of the administration anymore -- >> he is. >> if government is so vast that the president doesn't know anything about. it he is whoafully uninformed or lazy. >> she made an excellent point. i think she wrapped up the segment fairly well. i don't think any of us can improve on what she said. >> i am still thinking about her colon thing with john boehner. >> we can use that. from the irs to another mess. was their seizing displeasing? was that other trifle for obama outcry gathering phone records? the doj said it was necessary to figure out where a serious leak came from. hint, check the hot tub. that's where he usually is in my place. on wednesday the attorney general testified before congress and was able to shed some light on why the justice department acted the way it did. >> i am not familiar why the subpoena was constructed in the way that it was because i am not a part of the case. i do not know, however, with regard to this particular case why that was or was not done. i don't know what happened there with the interaction between the ap and the justice department. but i don't have a factful basis to answer the questions i was asked because i was recaused. i don't know what has happened in this mattered. >> he didn't shed any light at all. i should read these scripts. as if obama didn't have enough to deal with, look what was happening on the white house lawn this afternoon. >> such a metaphor for the administration, chasing their tails. >> kennedy, go ahead and bash the justice department for trying to keep us safe, you ungrateful libertarian freak. >> all i'm saying is if janet reno were here, elian gonzalez and waco would look like child's play. e is an em bearing meant toney the add -- embarassment to the administration and to himself. you know people in the f-b-i who are in charge of investigating the investigations, i totally hate him. he actually tried to paw lit size him right off the -- poe lit size him right off the bat try figure out who to throw under the bus and denying denial. republicans -- already calling for my resignation. it is like, well maybe it is because you are a jackass and you shouldn't be the attorney general of the united states of america. >> tom, i have to ask you that it is weird that everybody in the administration only hears about the administration by what they see on tv. >> i just heard about this. he said i don't have a factual basis on which to answer that question. what? >> all of a sudden the democrats are worried about leaks of the press. they were worried during the bush administration and they loved the leaks every day in the new york times. they julian asan. but not anymore. >> you remind me if montgomery burns was ever young. the hand movement you know with the hand movement. yes, you are montgomery burns as a bachelor. >> i don't know. i am not familiar with his body of work. >> all right, mikey, what is the deal here? if the leak puts america at risk, the justice department, are they wrong to do what they did? it is a hard place to be when you are mike baker. >> it is, it is. i am conflicted. being so handsome it doesn't matter. people don't even listen to you. >> i thought you were referring to eric holder. here is the thing, and here is why you have to be somewhat conflicted. what they are saying they were going after, the leak involving the operation that was last year in may, that was probably one of the most damaging leaks that we had. it was an on going operation. the white house completely screwed the pooch. what they are not say sght way the president handled it screwed the pooch. we had an asset. >> we had a gerbil. >> okay, richard gear, back off. >> that goes for something. >> that's not that easy to do. >> i ruined your point. >> i enjoyed your point better. we had this asset, and that is not easy to do. we were working with a foreign liaison partner, and it was not just us that got screwed over. it was our partners. it damages our relations and their equities. there was a leak of this operation and then the white house handled it saying don't worry because we are going up to the election season. they said don't worry. we have been on top of this thing. there was never any danger because be -- we were watching it. we thought, they had somebody here the whole time. it blew the operation out of the water. you have to find the people that are responsible for opening their pie hole on this whole thing. that's true. >> by spying on the press? >> no, this is where the doj is screwed up. there is a very short list of people with access to the operation. they have the classified tickets to actually read in on an operation that sensitive. a handful of people at the white house and a few people on capitol hill and people operationally. the people operationally already had the polygraph jammed up their ass. >> that's how they do it? >> now you want one. >> if you want to find out who leaked the information you walk over to the white house and you say have i a short list of people who had access to the information. on monday we will start polygraphing. are you good for 2:00 on monday? is that working good for you? you say you further investigate them. that's how you do it. the doj going after the records completely overreaching. >> could the ap argue they were holding the story? >> they did for a short period of time. they couldn't help themselves. they were worried that some other outlet would get the story ahead of them. they knew the source couldn't help themselves and talk further. >> you know what i am beginning to think? i have been asking you to recues yourself for six years. >> i don't know what it means. >> i know. >> you know what i am beginning to see, the administration has become don draper and the press is megan draper and she is slowly finding out that, oh, he is cheating on me. >> and despite the fact that he has a wonderful wang bulge it may be worth it. >> thank you for that. i didn't have a question, but i wanted to use my metaphor. >> when you take the polygraph do they let you use a lubricant? >> oh bill. >> i am asking for the fans. >> i was using a term of speech. they don't actually jam it up -- you know. >> thanks for pleading the fifth on that one. >> this is a family show. >> it is not a small instrument. >> but they do use a conductive gel, do they not? >> i think they do. >> they used to. >> excuse me, but we did a polygraph on bill schulz four years ago on this show. >> i am still limping. >> and you didn't call me? >> it was great. i asked him one question that he obviously lied about. you can look it up on youtube. do you remember the question? >> he asked mooy if i had put anything up my butt and whether or not i was gay and whether i did anything with animals and a whole list of std's and i passed all of them. but guess what, i have had a colonoscopy. there, you heard it, america. >> at least we solved some problems. >> what were we talking about initially? >> have i no clue. how do cia agents protect their identity? mike baker discusses his memwior, "i hid a gun inside another gun." we are not going to do this story. we will do the story on spies instead. look at this burger and pretend we are doing a story on a burger.