they met in person on august 2, 2019. in conversations with me following that meeting which i did not attend, mr. giuliani said that he had stressed the importance of ukraine conducting investigations into what happened in the past and mr. yermoc stressed, he said it is their position to conduct investigations as part of this process anyway. mr. giuliani said he believed ukrainian president needed to make a statement about fighting corruption and that he had discussed this with mr. yermoc, i said i didn't think this would abe problem since that is the government's position anyway. i followed up and he said they would be prepared to make a statement. there was no mention of vice president biden. rather, in referencing burisma in the 2016 election

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