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the girl pop spring? i think it's great. she's a girl who obviously loves hard, sings hard, lives hard. >> works hard. >> oh, completely. expresses hard. i love listening to her. i think she puts it all out there. i'm glad she seems to be in a really happy place now because the songs about joe and matty are kind of sad, but yea, travis. >> and there's a thin line between caitlin clark and taylor swift and beyonce. >> what is it? >> it's the power of women. >> it's the power of women supporting women. you see beyonce at taylor swift's movie premier. gone are the days when people believed there couldn't be two powerful women. one had to take down the other. the support you're seeing from these icons, that is new, and it's really extraordinary. >> it's sisterhood at the highest level, and you wouldn't have seen it a generation ago. these are not queen bees.