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back in 2015 and 2016 they would charge him with that. we keep calling this the hush money trial because they don't have a crime for what they say he did. bragg in essence accuses trump of stealing the 2016 election and suppressing politically damaging information. it is not a crime to suppress politically damaging information and if he could charge trump with stealing the 2016 election, he would have charged him with that. instead, he is charged 34 crimes he alleges were committed in 2017, which he is trying to convince people somehow stole the 2016 election, as if you could actually do things in 2017 to steal something that happened in 2016. so i really think it is more of a legal dispute than a factual one. >> martha: i'm curious what is revealed by the fact before all this gets started this morning,