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about the long-term fiscal gap would be wrong if this were to continue. >> that is the result of the lowering of medicare costs. >> multiple things. >> i think the biggest thing is the expectations that we're moving away from fee for service payment. most hospital executives thing we're moving quickly. we need to realize the expectations. everything that people are doing in advance of that shift would be dropped. >> unless, of course, it turns out -- peter said were if. if is the key here. we don't know yet. we can't fully diagnose what's going on. it's happened and it's a cause for hope. no more. >> let me get back to one of the things both of you agreed on. that is that this is a good signal for the business community. we're told prompts like hey, we've got a plan. you don't have to lay awake at night trying to figure out what the government is going to do to screw up your daily life. we've got the plan. the idea being, i think, that businesses that have been sitting on huge amounts of money