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telling him for years, is being poorly served by the mid-level management. these are the people that have been making the folks change numbers and manipulate the dates and wait lists. >> and mr. chairman, at the root of this. what to you is the problem? is it the unrealistic wait times? is 14 days simply too short a time? is it officials wanting bonuses to make these wait times? is it too much of a centralized bureaucracy, under funding? what is it? what is the core issue? >> everything but the funded side. look, the president wouldn't be traveling around the united states accusation we've given record funding to the department of veterans affairs if he thought they needed more. they actually have more money in their health care budget than they can spend. they're prepared to carry over almost one half of a billion dollars this year in health care funding which makes the delays and the waiting lists that much more egregious. they have the money to send the