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duncan, warning him not to testify and calling him a loser. that didn't affect the lieutenant governor in any way. nonetheless, you are seeing the former president certainly try -- making his feeling known to witnesses or potential witnesses in this case. >> yeah, he's certainly doing what he always does. it's unfortunate because i think until there are actual consequences, he's going to continue doing this. it's like a toddler. you've got to give them consequences to show that people mean it. i wish, i hope that at some point a judge says that's it, we're going to give you 24 hours in jail or whatever the punishment would be. he's got to have consequences because, again, as i said so many times, somebody gets hurt or heaven forbid a witness does feel intimidated and that takes some of these cases off the rails. > >> the lieutenant governor talking about him coming in tomorrow. he's going to say what he's