up with that argument. this man did not allegedly kidnap her. she was 11. she didn't go voluntarily. she didn't voluntarily have a child with this creature when she was 13. not voluntarily. and she didn't -- after a period of time, there is a loss of free will. so, there is no issue as to -- >> larry: he has no parental rights? >> well, he has parental rights. i would like to see the idiot jud judge, i would like to go face-to-face with the idiot judge who grants him visitation with those children. >> would you allow his defense to present the case before you, judge judy? >> he is entitled to have a case presented. >> you would slam it in his face? >> he is entitled. and there is no question that he is mentally unbalanced. >> larry: correct. >> you have to put him away